[pct-l] Castle Crags State Park To Close

[Jim Keener ( J J )]

Right. I see that all the time. Wait. That's not true. 

Most of the time it's the private campground with all the charm of KOA. 

Jim Keener ( J J )

On May 18, 2011, at 10:30 PM, AsABat <asabat at 4jeffrey.net> wrote:

> I'm not necessarily trying to be cheap, but when primitive state park
> campsites are $35 and fully hookup/swimming pool/movie star campsites across
> the street are $25, something is wrong.
> 
> AsABat
> 
> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Tortoise <Tortoise73 at charter.net> wrote:
> 
>> Generally speaking, the primary purpose of California and National parks is
>> to preserve and make available to the public natural and/or historic
>> resources. Camping may be part of the resource made available. But low-cost
>> camping, over night stays, or competing with private campgrounds is not the
>> purpose of camping in the parks. If one wants cheap camping, one needs to
>> camp elsewhere. Likewise for just an over night stay.
>> 
>> I have had enjoyable over nights in Calif state park campgrounds with
>> various levels and quality of facilities. I have also camped over night in
>> city parks and commercial campgrounds when necessary. The one amenity I
>> occasionally need is electricity  to recharge my laptop.
>> 
>> 
>> Tortoise
>> 
>> <>  Because truth matters.<>
>> 
>> 
>> On 2011.05.16 08:55, AsABat wrote:
>> 
>>> Camping in state parks is already overpriced in many areas. Fees equal or
>>> exceed those of private campgrounds with more facilities, including hookups,
>>> showers, pools, etc. Not that I enjoy the crowds in these camps, but it can
>>> be as crowded in state camps. I usually prefer boondocking/stealth camping,
>>> but I've chosen cheaper commercial camps over state camps when all I need is
>>> a quick stop over.
>>> 
>>> The concessions that run some of our park and forest camps are nuts. They
>>> have junk all over their host site but drive around in noisy carts our dirt
>>> bikes making sure we don't do anything. For this we pay and pay.
>>> 
>>> I understand it costs money to operate a campground, but when I use
>>> nothing but a pit toilet and a flat spot to sleep I wonder just how that
>>> costs $25 or more a day.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> AsABat
>>> 
>> 
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