[pct-l] Pct-L Digest, Vol 47, Issue 12
stacy falk
sacef99 at hotmail.com
Sat Nov 12 12:22:25 CST 2011
Ha, I enjoyed ready the replies to the weapon question. But realistically. . . I was a solo-female hiker on the CT and I carried my great grandpas .32 not for bears or lions but for psychopaths! I was told never to pull it out unless I intending on shooting in and never tell anyone I had it. And when I hike the PCT I have new ultra light weight gun that I plan on packing!
Cheers
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> 1. Carrying weapons (Reinhold Metzger)
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> 4. Re: PCT video hopefully for kickoff 2012 (Edward Anderson)
> 5. Re: Pct-L Digest, Vol 47, Issue 10 - Carrying Weapons
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> 6. Re: Carrying weapons (hiker97 at aol.com)
> 7. Re: Carrying weapons (hiker97 at aol.com)
> 8. Re: Pct-L Digest, Vol 47, Issue 10 - Carrying Weapons
> (Ernie Castillo)
> 9. Carrying Weapons (Reinhold Metzger)
> 10. Re: Carrying weapons (Reinhold Metzger)
> 11. Re: Carrying weapons (Reinhold Metzger)
> 12. Re: Deep Creek Detour (Katie Muilenburg)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 12:28:15 -0800
> From: Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Carrying weapons
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net, "Hiker97 at aol.com" <Hiker97 at aol.com>
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> Kellie wrote:
> Hi all, I'm a single female hiking the PCT in 2012 and have had a few
> folks recommend I carry a weapon (mainly, a gun). I'm opposed to this,
> but want to get the opinion of other hikers. Would you or do you carry
> a weapon?
> -----------------------------------------
> Reinhold responds:
> Kellie, a little gun will not stop a grizz or lion....you need something
> with more stopping power.
>
> A ''BAZOOKA'' is much more effective against bears or grizzlies.
>
> Another option, with much stopping power, is a front loading ''CANNON''.
> Bring at least 10 cannon balls and a large sack of black powder.
> Keep the cannon loaded at all times and matches at the ready.
>
> Now, with a ''FLAME THROWER'' you will have the most feared infantry
> weapon at your disposal.
> Nobody, and I mean nobody, including bears or Switchback want to get hit
> by a flame thrower.
> The other good thing about the flame thrower....you will not need to
> carry a stove, fuel, or pots and pans because the flame thrower will
> instantly BBQ anything you hit.
> You may, however, want to carry a five gallon fire extinguisher to
> extinguish any forest fires you might accidentally start.
>
> So, if you see Switchback running through the bushes with his rear end
> on fire, you will know you hit the
> "BULLS EYE''.
> Although, Switchback is hard to miss, he has a rather good
> sized...aahh...uuhh...''BULLS EYE''.
>
> JMT Reinhold
> The weapons expert
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 16:41:17 -0800 (PST)
> From: Barry Teschlog <tokencivilian at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Carrying Weapons
> To: PCT-L <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Reinhold wrote:
> Kellie, a little gun will not stop a grizz or lion....you need something
> with more stopping power.
>
> A ''BAZOOKA'' is much more effective against bears or grizzlies.
>
> Another option, with much stopping power, is a front loading ''CANNON''.
> Bring at least 10 cannon balls and a large sack of black powder.
> Keep the cannon loaded at all times and matches at the ready.
>
> Now, with a ''FLAME THROWER'' you will have the most feared infantry
> weapon at your disposal.
> Nobody, and I mean nobody, including bears or Switchback want to get hit
> by a flame thrower.
> The other good thing about the flame thrower....you will not need to
> carry a stove, fuel, or pots and pans because the flame thrower will
> instantly BBQ anything you hit.
> You may, however, want to carry a five gallon fire extinguisher to
> extinguish any forest fires you might accidentally start.
>
> So, if you see Switchback running through the bushes with his rear end
> on fire, you will know you hit the
> "BULLS EYE''.
> Although, Switchback is hard to miss, he has a rather good
> sized...aahh...uuhh...''BULLS EYE''.
>
> JMT Reinhold
> The weapons expert
>
>
>
> Reinhold: I'm surprised you didn't pick up this little gem. It's PERFECT for the backpacker in need of a weapon. Lots of fire power and a big kill radius. :-)
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W54
>
> It's only ~50 lbs, ultra light by nuke standards - just right for one of a "heavy trucker" to lug along in their external frame packs.
>
> And shame on you there Reinhold for advocating a wheeled vehicle on the trail - cannons are strictly forbidden in Wilderness, even if they're horse drawn. :-)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 16:49:29 -0800
> From: <chiefcowboy at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Carrying weapons
> To: "Reinhold Metzger" <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>,
> <pct-l at backcountry.net>, <Hiker97 at aol.com>
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> Reinhold,
>
> I think you've made a serious mistake, which you almost never do. If she
> used the flamethrower on Switchback's "bullseye" fire would not be the
> concern. The resulting gaseous explosion would probably knock pine cones
> from trees for miles around. You have take into consideration the
> collateral damage that the "widowmakers" from Coulter Pine Trees if they
> fall on innocent hikers.
>
> Sorry to make this criticism but just couldn't resist. You err so seldom,
> unlike Switchback.
>
> Burning Daylight.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Reinhold Metzger
> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 12:28 PM
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net ; Hiker97 at aol.com
> Subject: [pct-l] Carrying weapons
>
> Kellie wrote:
> Hi all, I'm a single female hiking the PCT in 2012 and have had a few
> folks recommend I carry a weapon (mainly, a gun). I'm opposed to this,
> but want to get the opinion of other hikers. Would you or do you carry
> a weapon?
> -----------------------------------------
> Reinhold responds:
> Kellie, a little gun will not stop a grizz or lion....you need something
> with more stopping power.
>
> A ''BAZOOKA'' is much more effective against bears or grizzlies.
>
> Another option, with much stopping power, is a front loading ''CANNON''.
> Bring at least 10 cannon balls and a large sack of black powder.
> Keep the cannon loaded at all times and matches at the ready.
>
> Now, with a ''FLAME THROWER'' you will have the most feared infantry
> weapon at your disposal.
> Nobody, and I mean nobody, including bears or Switchback want to get hit
> by a flame thrower.
> The other good thing about the flame thrower....you will not need to
> carry a stove, fuel, or pots and pans because the flame thrower will
> instantly BBQ anything you hit.
> You may, however, want to carry a five gallon fire extinguisher to
> extinguish any forest fires you might accidentally start.
>
> So, if you see Switchback running through the bushes with his rear end
> on fire, you will know you hit the
> "BULLS EYE''.
> Although, Switchback is hard to miss, he has a rather good
> sized...aahh...uuhh...''BULLS EYE''.
>
> JMT Reinhold
> The weapons expert
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 19:39:18 -0800 (PST)
> From: Edward Anderson <mendoridered at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT video hopefully for kickoff 2012
> To: Motomiss <motomiss at gmail.com>, "pct-l at backcountry.net"
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> Terrific Video! I really enjoyed it.
> ?
> MemdoRider
>
>
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> To: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 5:31 PM
> Subject: [pct-l] PCT video hopefully for kickoff 2012
>
> Hey friends and fellow hikers,
>
> Here is a video I put together from thru hiking in 2010 that talks about lessons learned on the trail. Enjoy and may it get you excited for winter exploration and next year's adventures along the trail.? Hopefully it can be shown at kick off next year!
>
> Check it out at:
> http://vimeo.com/27127993
>
> Currently, Swift and I are riding our bicycles from Lima, Peru to el fin del mundo and it has been quite amazing and challenging!? I miss the trail often and the amazing community that helps us hikers out. Sure miss yogi's books and halfmile's maps!
>
> Keep on exploring,
> Buckeye
>
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> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:52:23 -0800 (PST)
> From: Heather Darnell <mom_and_alex at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Pct-L Digest, Vol 47, Issue 10 - Carrying Weapons
> To: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Wow, so many of you have provided great insights on the whole gun issue. I love the collective wisdom on this forum :)
>
> Now, just taking a step back for a moment. Kellie, Maybe you grew up with guns and this is why they recommend it. But if you did not (and I'm not asking you to answer here, just to consider) - have you ever shot anyone before? Or pointed a gun at someone? Or had someone point a gun at you?
> I am not a COMPLETE pacifist, and I do believe in appropriate self-defense. At the same time, involving a gun in the issue is an experience that is not easily lived down. There's just a lot of psychology around a gun. It is one thing to talk about carrying but just know yourself and whether you would really use it.
>
> Anyway, since I'm usually going to be carrying bear spray already, I'm feeling like that's more than adequate!.
>
> ?
>
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 20:27:36 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Kellie Morrill <kelliemorrill at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Carrying weapons
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Hi all,
> ?
> I'm a single female hiking the PCT in 2012 and?have had a few folks recommend I carry a weapon (mainly, a gun). I'm opposed to this, but want to get the opinion of other hikers.
> ?
> Would you or do you carry a weapon?
> ?
> Other single women hikers, what do you carry if you carry anything?
> ?
> Happy hiking!
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 04:00:40 -0500 (EST)
> From: hiker97 at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Carrying weapons
> To: reinholdmetzger at cox.net, pct-l at backcountry.net
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>
>
> Super Senior JMT Snow Bunny Reinhold writes: So, if you see Switchback running through the bushes with his rear end on fire, you will know you hit the "BULLS EYE''. Although, Switchback is hard to miss, he has a rather good
> ized...aahh...uuhh...''BULLS EYE''.
>
> ------------------------------------------
>
> Switchback replies: If I am in the bushes, I am talking a potty break. And if someone lights me on fire while I am doing my business, then it is war. All you have to do on the trial is carry is some
>
> pepper spray. It is light and very effective against people and animals. Simple. I have always carred some mainly against Female Terminator Leadership Types, who are after me.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 04:19:27 -0500 (EST)
> From: hiker97 at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Carrying weapons
> To: chiefcowboy at verizon.net, reinholdmetzger at cox.net,
> pct-l at backcountry.net
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>
> Reinhold, I think you've made a serious mistake, which you almost never do. If she
> sed the flamethrower on Switchback's "bullseye" fire would not be the
> oncern. The resulting gaseous explosion would probably knock pine cones
> rom trees for miles around. You have take into consideration the
> ollateral damage that the "widowmakers" from Coulter Pine Trees if they
> all on innocent hikers. Sorry to make this criticism but just couldn't resist. You err so seldom,
> nlike Switchback.
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Switchback replies: This is an outrage. This is an insult. This is a slanderous attack. I take great exception to the comment
>
> of a gaseous explosion knocking pine cones from trees for miles around. The explosion would easily knock pine cones off trees
> along the whole eastern Sierras. This would start near Kennedy Meadows to al least Toloumne Meadows. No problem.
> The PCT would be closed for weeks for the clean-up.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chiefcowboy <chiefcowboy at verizon.net>
> To: Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>; pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>; Hiker97 <Hiker97 at aol.com>
> Sent: Fri, Nov 11, 2011 4:49 pm
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Carrying weapons
>
>
> Reinhold,
> I think you've made a serious mistake, which you almost never do. If she
> sed the flamethrower on Switchback's "bullseye" fire would not be the
> oncern. The resulting gaseous explosion would probably knock pine cones
> rom trees for miles around. You have take into consideration the
> ollateral damage that the "widowmakers" from Coulter Pine Trees if they
> all on innocent hikers.
> Sorry to make this criticism but just couldn't resist. You err so seldom,
> nlike Switchback.
> Burning Daylight.
> -----Original Message-----
> rom: Reinhold Metzger
> ent: Friday, November 11, 2011 12:28 PM
> o: pct-l at backcountry.net ; Hiker97 at aol.com
> ubject: [pct-l] Carrying weapons
> Kellie wrote:
> i all, I'm a single female hiking the PCT in 2012 and have had a few
> olks recommend I carry a weapon (mainly, a gun). I'm opposed to this,
> ut want to get the opinion of other hikers. Would you or do you carry
> weapon?
> ----------------------------------------
> einhold responds:
> ellie, a little gun will not stop a grizz or lion....you need something
> ith more stopping power.
> A ''BAZOOKA'' is much more effective against bears or grizzlies.
> Another option, with much stopping power, is a front loading ''CANNON''.
> ring at least 10 cannon balls and a large sack of black powder.
> eep the cannon loaded at all times and matches at the ready.
> Now, with a ''FLAME THROWER'' you will have the most feared infantry
> eapon at your disposal.
> obody, and I mean nobody, including bears or Switchback want to get hit
> y a flame thrower.
> he other good thing about the flame thrower....you will not need to
> arry a stove, fuel, or pots and pans because the flame thrower will
> nstantly BBQ anything you hit.
> ou may, however, want to carry a five gallon fire extinguisher to
> xtinguish any forest fires you might accidentally start.
> So, if you see Switchback running through the bushes with his rear end
> n fire, you will know you hit the
> BULLS EYE''.
> lthough, Switchback is hard to miss, he has a rather good
> ized...aahh...uuhh...''BULLS EYE''.
> JMT Reinhold
> he weapons expert
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 04:34:56 -0500
> From: Ernie Castillo <erniec01 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Pct-L Digest, Vol 47, Issue 10 - Carrying Weapons
> To: <mom_and_alex at yahoo.com>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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>
> Regarding the gun issue.
> I have been lurking quietly but now I must speak up.
> Heavy truckers may be more inclined to pack heat.
> Ultra-light crowd may be more inclined to pack a plastic water gun.
> And that is all I have to say about that.
>
> Ernie Castillo
> Class of 1980 and somebody who carried a large knive strapped to the top of his pack.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 02:57:32 -0800
> From: Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Carrying Weapons
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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>
> Barry,
> I forgot all about the W54.....it is the ultimate weapon for the trail and at only
> 50 lb it is a piece of cake for "Heavy Truckers" to strap on their external frame packs.
>
> JMT Reinhold
> Your sometimes UL heavy trucker
> -------------------------------
> Barry wrote:
> Reinhold: I'm surprised you didn't pick up this little gem. It's PERFECT for
> the backpacker in need of a weapon. Lots of fire power and a big kill radius. :-)
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W54
>
> It's only ~50 lbs, ultra light by nuke standards - just right for one of a
> "heavy trucker" to lug along in their external frame packs.
>
> And shame on you there Reinhold for advocating a wheeled vehicle on the trail,
> cannons are strictly forbidden in Wilderness, even if they're horse drawn. :-)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 03:37:42 -0800
> From: Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Carrying weapons
> To: chiefcowboy at verizon.net
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net, Hiker97 at aol.com
> Message-ID: <4EBE5A86.1040300 at cox.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> That's OK Chief cowboy,
> I do err, like everybody else....not very often, not nearly as often as
> Switchback, but once in a while I do.
> I must admit, setting on fire a huge gas tank could cause one heck of an
> explosion.
> Perhaps Switchback is best neutralized another way......unscrew the gas
> check valve before setting him aflame.
>
> JMT Reinhold
> -----------------------------------------------
>
> On 11/11/2011 4:49 PM, chiefcowboy at verizon.net wrote:
> > Reinhold,
> >
> > I think you've made a serious mistake, which you almost never do. If
> > she used the flamethrower on Switchback's "bullseye" fire would not be
> > the concern. The resulting gaseous explosion would probably knock
> > pine cones from trees for miles around. You have take into
> > consideration the collateral damage that the "widowmakers" from
> > Coulter Pine Trees if they fall on innocent hikers.
> >
> > Sorry to make this criticism but just couldn't resist. You err so
> > seldom, unlike Switchback.
> >
> > Burning Daylight.
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > -----Original Message----- From: Reinhold Metzger
> > Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 12:28 PM
> > To: pct-l at backcountry.net ; Hiker97 at aol.com
> > Subject: [pct-l] Carrying weapons
> >
> > Kellie wrote:
> > Hi all, I'm a single female hiking the PCT in 2012 and have had a few
> > folks recommend I carry a weapon (mainly, a gun). I'm opposed to this,
> > but want to get the opinion of other hikers. Would you or do you carry
> > a weapon?
> > -----------------------------------------
> > Reinhold responds:
> > Kellie, a little gun will not stop a grizz or lion....you need something
> > with more stopping power.
> >
> > A ''BAZOOKA'' is much more effective against bears or grizzlies.
> >
> > Another option, with much stopping power, is a front loading ''CANNON''.
> > Bring at least 10 cannon balls and a large sack of black powder.
> > Keep the cannon loaded at all times and matches at the ready.
> >
> > Now, with a ''FLAME THROWER'' you will have the most feared infantry
> > weapon at your disposal.
> > Nobody, and I mean nobody, including bears or Switchback want to get hit
> > by a flame thrower.
> > The other good thing about the flame thrower....you will not need to
> > carry a stove, fuel, or pots and pans because the flame thrower will
> > instantly BBQ anything you hit.
> > You may, however, want to carry a five gallon fire extinguisher to
> > extinguish any forest fires you might accidentally start.
> >
> > So, if you see Switchback running through the bushes with his rear end
> > on fire, you will know you hit the
> > "BULLS EYE''.
> > Although, Switchback is hard to miss, he has a rather good
> > sized...aahh...uuhh...''BULLS EYE''.
> >
> > JMT Reinhold
> > The weapons expert
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 04:31:07 -0800
> From: Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Carrying weapons
> To: PCT <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <4EBE670B.9050609 at cox.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> On 11/12/2011 4:09 AM, Reinhold Metzger wrote:
> > Heather,
> > Thank you for your vote of confidence.
> > Yes, I have been told, on more than one occasion, that my insight and
> > collective wisdom is without equal.
> > Again, thank you for your vote of confidence.
> >
> > JMT Reinhold
> > President, Collective Wisdom Institute
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > Heather wrote:
> > Wow, so many of you have provided great insight on the whole gun
> > issue........
> > .......I love the collective wisdom on this forum:)
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > Reinhold wrote:
> >> Kellie, a little gun will not stop a grizz or lion....you need
> >> something with more stopping power.
> >>
> >> A ''BAZOOKA'' is much more effective against bears or grizzlies.
> >>
> >> Another option, with much stopping power, is a front loading ''CANNON''.
> >> Bring at least 10 cannon balls and a large sack of black powder.
> >> Keep the cannon loaded at all times and matches at the ready.
> >>
> >> Now, with a ''FLAME THROWER'' you will have the most feared
> >> infantry weapon at your disposal.
> >> Nobody, and I mean nobody, including bears or Switchback want to get
> >> hit by a flame thrower.
> >> The other good thing about the flame thrower....you will not need to
> >> carry a stove, fuel, or pots and pans because the flame thrower will
> >> instantly BBQ anything you hit.
> >> You may, however, want to carry a five gallon fire extinguisher to
> >> extinguish any forest fires you might accidentally start.
> >>
> >> So, if you see Switchback running through the bushes with his rear
> >> end on fire, you will know you hit the
> >> "BULLS EYE''.
> >> Although, Switchback is hard to miss, he has a rather good
> >> sized...aahh...uuhh...''BULLS EYE''.
> >>
> >> JMT Reinhold
> >> The weapons expert
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:02:00 -0600
> From: Katie Muilenburg <katiedm at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Deep Creek Detour
> To: Dan Campbell <dan at camelbackhotel.com>
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> Dan,
>
> When I went through the Deep Creek area this spring, I took the detour for
> the first half, and then PCT for the second half of Deep Creek. Everyone I
> talked with at the halfway point that had taken the PCT (and not the
> detour) up to that point said there was absolutely nothing in the way of
> bad trail. After I got on (near the hot springs) and headed north, there
> was a slide, but it was easily passable on foot. I did far scarier things
> at other points on the trail that were not closed and detoured. We seemed
> to think the trail closure for this slide was more for horses, which would
> have had a hard time crawling over it. For people, it was fine, just a
> quick 20 second scramble. The slide is located near the north end of the
> Deep Creek Canyon, just a bit south of the big river ford. The miles all
> run together, so it's hard to say exactly where. That was my experience in
> May.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Dan Campbell <dan at camelbackhotel.com>wrote:
>
> > I'm hiking Section "C". Does anyone know where is the "land slide" in Deep
> > Creek and is it possible to skip the detour and scramble around through the
> > land slide? Thanks.
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