[pct-l] Tents

[Cosmic Cat]

We carried the Lunar Duo this year and pitched it all but a few nights due
to the large amounts of bugs this year.

Plusses: It held up for the most part. It also has lots of space. Fair
ventilation, expect some drippage on wet nights.

Minuses: The zippers. Everyone we encountered with this tent had wear issues
with the zippers from Oregon on. They didn't fail, they just became really
tricky.

In any kind of wind, the lunar duo becomes very flappy. You will want to
keep two extra stakes and guylines to keep the flapping under control.

Goodness
 On Sep 29, 2011 10:26 PM, "Daniel Hurt" <danielhurt at ymail.com> wrote:
> I would like to know if any hikers have had use of any of these tents and
what they think of them on a thru hike north on the PCT; does anyone think
one is better than another?  I'm considering golite shangri-la 2, MSR twin
sisters, six moon Lunar Duo, Tarp tent Cloudburst 2, or double rainbow. Any
thoughts anyone has on any of these tents and how they hold up on the PCT
would be helpful.
>
>
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>   2. Re: time/distance (Joseph Anderson)
>   3. Re: Reaction to Hikers (Yoshihiro Murakami)
>   4. Re: PCT-L - Most Common Causes of Thru-Dropout (Nathan Miller)
>   5. Re: Scissor Crossing to Snow Creek (Ground Pounder)
>   6. Re: time/distance (Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes)
>   7. Re: time/distance (Austin Williams)
>   8. Re: time/distance (Austin Williams)
>   9. Re: Most Common Causes of Thru-Dropout (Austin Williams)
>   10. Re: Scissor Crossing to Snow Creek (Derek Fohs)
>   11. Here It Comes (tom aterno)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 10:17:18 -0700
> From: Meridith Rosendahl <meridith.rosendahl at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT-L - Most Common Causes of Thru-Dropout
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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>>
>>
>> That's my girl!  I love that woman.  Maybe I could frame that quote.
Hm....
> Piper's Mom
>
>
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:48:28 -0700
>> From: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT-L - Most Common Causes of Thru-Dropout
>>
>
>
>>  I loved every minute. Well, okay, not every minute, but I
>> look back on every minute fondly, even the minutes I hated.
>>
>>  This probably wins the prize for the best hiking quote of
>> the year so far!
>>
>>  Yup!  Way to go Piper!  That one's repeatable.
>>  Shroomer
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 13:47:06 -0700
> From: Joseph Anderson <joedaddy44 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] time/distance
> To: Scott Williams <baidarker at gmail.com>
> Cc: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> I totally agree with Shroomer on that. Starting at Kennedy meadows will
give
> you a gentle entrance to the Sierras at what is arguably the best time of
> year to do so. It was July 10th when I headed north from KM this year. We
> enjoyed perfect weather and much less snow than a month earlier when the
> thru hiker pack was there. You'll have a much more pleasant trip beginning
> at KM than you would if you were to start from the border at that time of
> year. (IMHO)
>
>   - Joe -
>
> Life is good!
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 08:15:04 +0900
> From: Yoshihiro Murakami <completewalker at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Reaction to Hikers
> To: Andrea Dinsmore <andrea at dinsmoreshikerhaven.com>
> Cc: Meridith Rosendahl <meridith.rosendahl at gmail.com>,
>     pct-l at backcountry.net
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> I met three men at the Muir Hut this summer. They were very friendly,
> but their body odor was too severe. My eyes felt a pain and was not
> able to tolerate, even I was a few meters from them.  I ran away from
> them immediately. My wife also had the same experience.  They might be
> famous professors or attorneys. I don't know.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2011/7/4 Andrea Dinsmore <andrea at dinsmoreshikerhaven.com>:
>> Very well said............I tell all my new friends how we fell into the
>> hiker family. Jerry called me from Skykomish one day and asked if he
could
>> bring 4 hikers home. We had never heard of the Pacific Crest Trail. Had
no
>> idea who, what or where. The stink.....Holy Cow. Couldn't believe a human
or
>> animal could be so potent. Anyhow, these guys who looked like they'd been
>> living under a bridge forever, turned out to be 3 attorneys and a Dr.
That's
>> when our education started. Don't judge a book by it's cover.....wait
until
>> they open their mouths. Well, most of the time that works. If you think
>> someone is homeless.....you might be able to lend a hand. The dirt washes
>> off......the friendship may last forever.
>>
>> Andrea Dinsmore
>> PCT MOM
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 19:03:06 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Nathan Miller <erccmacfitheal at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT-L - Most Common Causes of Thru-Dropout
> To: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>,
>     Tortoise73 at charter.net, jplynch <jplynch at crosslink.net>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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>> "I loved every minute. Well, okay,
>> not every minute, but I
>> look back on every minute fondly, even the minutes I
>> hated."
>> This probably wins the prize for the best hiking quote of
>> the year so far!
>
> I totally agree!  When I was postholing through the snow on Old Baldy in
June, after a couple of hours, I started thinking, "THIS SUCKS!!!!"  Looking
back on it, I now think, "You know, it really wasn't THAT bad."
>
> -Nate the Trail Zombie
> Newberg, OR
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 19:45:41 -0700
> From: "Ground Pounder" <groundpounderbill22 at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Scissor Crossing to Snow Creek
> To: "'Derek Fohs'" <derekfohs at hotmail.com>,    <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> You only going to eat 3 times?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Derek Fohs
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 5:26 PM
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: [pct-l] Scissor Crossing to Snow Creek
>
>
> Hello,
> I'm starting my second segment of the PCT next month. I'll start at
Scissor
> Crossing outside of Julian and end at Hwy 10 outside of Palm Springs.
Anyone
> have tips or suggestions for this leg? Campsights, sidetrips, etc. My plan
> is to forego stove, fuel, and cooking wares and get hot meals and resupply
> cold food in Warner Springs, Hwy 74, and Idyllwild.
> Thanks,
> Derek
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 19:55:09 -0700
> From: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] time/distance
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Trailhacker attempted to hike from Cabazon to Cajon Pass over the 4th
> of July weekend. When we arrived at the Section C trailhead outside
> Cabazon at 8pm it was still 102 degrees (39 Celcius). I hiked with
> him for a while and we slept on the trail near Teutang Canyon. It was
> very hard to sleep when it was too hot to use a sleeping bag. I
> couldn't even stand to have fabric cover my legs, yet big bugs would
> flutter against my legs. After a few hours it cooled off enough to
> drape a bivy sack over part of me. It was nice in the morning. I set
> off back to the car and bid good-bye to Trailhacker who continued on.
>
> I drove home to comfortable Santa Barbara and took a nap. Sometime in
> the afternoon I thought maybe I should check my phone messages just
> in case. There was a message from Trailhacker. He sounded like he was
> in dire straights. He sounded weak and his voice was shaky and
> exhausted. He said he was turning back. It was just too hot. He
> really sounded like he might die. I rushed back to the trail and
> worried that I had been irresponsible enough to let him go and kill
> himself. Santa Barbara is 3.5 hours away from Cabazon.
>
> When I got to Cabazon I got a hotel and turned on the air conditioner
> hoping to create a cool place to take Trailhacker, if I could find
> him. It was 120 degrees. (49 Celcius). It was way too hot for me to
> go out on the trail and look for him.
>
> Long story short (too late, I know) he didn't make it out of there
> until the next morning. It had been 125 degrees (52 C) where he was
> and he recognized that he had symptoms of heat exhaustion so he
> backtracked to Whitewater creek where he set up a sun shade and
> soaked in the creek all day. He waited until morning when it was
> cooler to return to the trailhead.
>
> All this is to say that July is probably not the best time to hike
> the Southern California portion of the trail. There are pieces you
> could do, such as Mt. San Jacinto and the mountains around Big Bear
> and Wrightwood, but these sections are very short. You may get lucky
> and the hottest it will be is 95, or you could have a heat wave like
> Trailhacker got and get 125 degrees. He could have done this hike a
> week earlier or later no problem. He likes it hot. But not THAT hot!
>
> If you really want to start your hike at the Mexican border it's best
> to do it in April or May. It's delightful then. Usually comfortable
> temperatures with warm days and cold nights and pretty flowers even
> in the desert.
>
>
> On Sep 28, 2011, at 10:00 AM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm new to the site. I'm planning to start a first leg of the PCT
>> next summer from the Mex border, probably early July and hike
>> through late August. Can anyone tell me how much of the trail I can
>> cover during that time (about 50 days). I'm a relatively
>> experienced hiker, used to steep climbs up the Alps; I live in
>> Grenoble, France.
>>
>> ?
>> Pat
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 22:42:11 -0700
> From: Austin Williams <austinwilliams123 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] time/distance
> To: patrick moreno <patrickfmoreno at yahoo.fr>, pct-l at backcountry.net
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> My best guess:  50 days = 860 miles.  In heat like that, though, perhaps
15%
> less due to lots of extra "hiding in whatever shade you can find" time.
:)
> Sounds like fun.  Bring more water than you think you'll need.
>
> Austin Williams
> www.PlanYourHike.com <http://www.planyourhike.com/>
> Info on PCT Gear, Resupply Points, Maps, Thru hiking Movies, etc.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 10:55 PM, patrick moreno <patrickfmoreno at yahoo.fr
>wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm new to the site. I'm planning to start a first leg of the PCT next
>> summer from the Mex border, probably early July and hike through late
>> August. Can anyone tell me how much of the trail I can cover during that
>> time (about 50 days). I'm a relatively experienced hiker, used to steep
>> climbs up the Alps; I live in Grenoble, France.
>>
>>
>> Pat
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 22:42:44 -0700
> From: Austin Williams <austinwilliams123 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] time/distance
> To: patrick moreno <patrickfmoreno at yahoo.fr>, pct-l at backcountry.net
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> You might consider heading southbound if yer starting that late.... that's
> what I would do.
>
> Austin Williams
>
> www.PlanYourHike.com <http://www.planyourhike.com/>
> Info on PCT Gear, Resupply Points, Maps, Thru hiking Movies, etc.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Austin Williams <
> austinwilliams123 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> My best guess:  50 days = 860 miles.  In heat like that, though, perhaps
>> 15% less due to lots of extra "hiding in whatever shade you can find"
>> time.  :)
>> Sounds like fun.  Bring more water than you think you'll need.
>>
>> Austin Williams
>> www.PlanYourHike.com <http://www.planyourhike.com/>
>> Info on PCT Gear, Resupply Points, Maps, Thru hiking Movies, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 10:55 PM, patrick moreno <patrickfmoreno at yahoo.fr
>wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm new to the site. I'm planning to start a first leg of the PCT next
>>> summer from the Mex border, probably early July and hike through late
>>> August. Can anyone tell me how much of the trail I can cover during that
>>> time (about 50 days). I'm a relatively experienced hiker, used to steep
>>> climbs up the Alps; I live in Grenoble, France.
>>>
>>>
>>> Pat
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> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 00:52:42 -0700
> From: Austin Williams <austinwilliams123 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Most Common Causes of Thru-Dropout
> To: Jeff Judd <frotiss_lupus at yahoo.com>, pct-l at backcountry.net
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> I'd like to add: take zero days even if you don't think you need them.  I
> did 1600 miles with only 3 zero days and (though I didn't realize it at
the
> time) that really, really affected my attitude and spirit in a negative
> way.  I was literally overworked and didn't know it.  Looking back I can
see
> the signs, but at the time I was blind to them.
>
> If yer feeling aggro and irritable and like yer not having fun... that's a
> sure sign that you need a zero day or two.
> I also agree with the previous poster that hiking (especially solo) can be
a
> very emotional experience.  I remember crying a few times on the trail.
The
> first time was when I injured my ankle.  I didn't cry because of the
pain...
> I cried (sobbed like a little baby) because I thought it meant my trip was
> going to be over.  That all that planning and dreaming, and preparing, and
> anticipation was all for naught.  That was a very hard day.  (I spent half
a
> day with my ankle soaking in a cold creek before finally hobbling on.  It
> actually healed rather quickly.)
>
> The loneliness of a solo hike hit me at the strangest time.  I actual
didn't
> *feel* alone *most* of the time.  I am a very independent person and
usually
> prefer to be by myself than around others.  It wasn't until I either (a)
> had a near death experience, or (b) was taking in a breathtaking view,
that
> I felt alone.  During the near death experiences (almost sliding off a
cliff
> (x6), sliding downhill towards a freezing lake, having half my body fall
> into a crevasse, falling down a waterfall when lost several miles off
trail,
> yada yada yada) I became instantly and vividly aware that I was alone, and
> that only I could save myself.  (A very sobering thought).  Looking back,
> these were some of my favorite moments.  I wouldn't want to repeat *any*
of
> them, but they really let me "test my metal".
>
> But it was when I had all that beauty and wonder and magic all around me
--
> as far as the eye can see and as deep as the heart can feel -- that's when
I
> really felt the most alone.  I was so sad that I had no one present to
share
> it with (a rare feeling for me).  Pictures do no justice.  I would have
> given anything to share those moments with my wife, or friends, or
> siblings.... anyone.  It's a very strange feeling being in awe of the
beauty
> and wonder that our wilderness inspires -- feeling as though you are right
> in the middle of the most perfect place in the most perfect time that has
> ever existed-- and at the same time feeling like you are the only person
> that is left on the planet.  Entirely alone.  Those moments are mine, and
> I'll never forget them.  But it would have been nice to share a few of
them
> with loved ones.
>
> yeah, I cried...  like a little baby...
>
> where was I going with this?  Oh, right.  Why people leave the trail....
I
> think sometimes one's emotions can weigh more than their gear.
>
> Yet another reason: sometimes people get "their fill" of whatever it is
they
> are looking for (adventure, solitude, distance from modern society,
> exercise, the wilderness experience, bragging rights, simplicity, etc)
> before they reach their original destination.  I hiked from Canada to
> Kennedy Meadows, and I took one look at the last leg of the SoBo hike (the
> desert) and thought "nah...".  I was uninspired (the desert in September
is
> not nearly as awesome as it is in April, let me tell you....).
>
> Just remember, it's easy to get so blinded by the goal that you forget why
> you set it.  If you do some soul searching you'll probably find that real
> purpose of the thru hike isn't simply to get from Mexico to Canada (if
> that's all it was you'd just take a bus, right?).  I like to think of the
> thru hike as a *means* rather than an *end*.  Our origin is our present
> self.  Our destination is our future, stronger, wiser, more courageous and
> confident self.  The PCT is the path from origin to destination.
>
> Hakuna Matata,
>
> Austin Williams
>
> www.PlanYourHike.com <http://www.planyourhike.com/>
> Info on PCT Gear, Resupply Points, Maps, Thru hiking Movies, etc.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Jeff Judd <frotiss_lupus at yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
>> I just want to give a gargantuan thank you to everyone who responded to
>> this inquiry both on and off list.  You've all given me a wealth of
>> different angles from which to consider this undertaking.  Your personal
>> experiences will be very helpful in examining my psyche on trail I think.
>> It all comes down to the individual it seems like.  By which I mean both
>> individual fitness and proneness to injury, and the mindset one has both
>> going into it and on trail.  All we can ever do is plan and prepare to
the
>> fullest extent possible, then understand that the best laid schemes of
mice
>> and men oft go awry.
>>
>> With that being said I think my wife and I definitely need to get some
>> additional experience on snow travel and stream crossings.  We don't get
the
>> chance to practice that much here in San Diego.  Also, whoever it was
that
>> gave me the advice to train as much as possible on long, uneven terrain
to
>> help my joints and ligaments become more resistant to repetitive motion
>> injuries, that was a gem.
>>
>> Much love,
>>
>> Jeff
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> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 03:07:14 +0000
> From: Derek Fohs <derekfohs at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Scissor Crossing to Snow Creek
> To: <groundpounderbill22 at verizon.net>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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>
> Maybe if I was going to sprint the whole way. Only three hot meals where I
can get them. The rest of the menu will be salami, cheese, cliff bars, avos,
hardboiled eggs, trailmix, beef jerkey, chocolate, etc.
>
>
>> From: groundpounderbill22 at verizon.net
>> To: derekfohs at hotmail.com; pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Subject: RE: [pct-l] Scissor Crossing to Snow Creek
>> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 19:45:41 -0700
>>
>> You only going to eat 3 times?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net
]
>> On Behalf Of Derek Fohs
>> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 5:26 PM
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Subject: [pct-l] Scissor Crossing to Snow Creek
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>> I'm starting my second segment of the PCT next month. I'll start at
Scissor
>> Crossing outside of Julian and end at Hwy 10 outside of Palm Springs.
Anyone
>> have tips or suggestions for this leg? Campsights, sidetrips, etc. My
plan
>> is to forego stove, fuel, and cooking wares and get hot meals and
resupply
>> cold food in Warner Springs, Hwy 74, and Idyllwild.
>> Thanks,
>> Derek
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> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 04:35:24 -0700 (PDT)
> From: tom aterno <nitnoid1 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Here It Comes
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> For all you JMT and?northern?PCT backpackers, winter will potentially
will?arrive early next week.
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> http://forecast.weather.gov/wwamap/wwatxtget.php?cwa=vef&wwa=specialweather statement
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> As Ground Pounder Bill says, "Be Prepared."
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> Have fun in the snow.? It's just rain, rain and more rain?on the east
coast.
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> The Incredible Bulk
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