[pct-l] Fw: Judge suspends horse packing in national parks (Sequoia-Kings)

[Hillary Schwirtlich]

Once again, I am wishing for a like button. Thanks for making me laugh,
Mango.

Seahorse.

On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 6:57 PM, I Discovered That By Going Out I Had Really
Gone In <timpnye at gmail.com> wrote:

> We are obviously upgrading our commentary. Nice reference to "The Elements
> of Style",   Mango.
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone
>
> Jim & Jane Moody <moodyjj at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Mendo,
> >
> >Please ask Ms. Williams to take her meds (or stop taking them, as the
> case might be .)  What her lawyer advises about file sizes and what
> grizzlies are doing are not pertinent to this thread.  She might also
> consider reviewing Strunk & White.
> >
> >Thanks you.
> >
> >Mango
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >
> >
> >From: "Edward Anderson" <mendoridered at yahoo.com>
> >To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> >Sent: Friday, April 6, 2012 5:02:45 PM
> >Subject: [pct-l] Fw: Judge suspends horse packing in national
> parks        (Sequoia-Kings)
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Forwarded Message -----
> >From: Anne Williams <touchstone at isomedia.com>
> >To: Edward Anderson <mendoridered at yahoo.com>
> >Sent: Friday, April 6, 2012 1:30 PM
> >Subject: Re: [pct-l] Judge suspends horse packing in national parks
> (Sequoia-Kings)
> >
> >
> >
> >Interesting, I wonder what the actual violation of
> >the Wilderness Act it. Everybody violtaes the wilderness act by crapping
> in the
> >widerness, and just becaue some people ae bad packes, does not mean that
> the
> >whole industry should be through out.  This also eliminates the strings of
> >mules and horses going into the High Sierra camps tht the park
> >runs.
> >
> >I wonder what what their rulling would be on
> >SERVICE ANIMALS.  I see Horses as service animals. Dogs on the other
> >hand , you can not ride and they  do not carry your gear, let
> >alone crapping evrywhere, and chasing the wildlife and barking and biting
> ( dogs
> >kill something like 70 people a year, and bears kill 2)
> >
> >for some reason , I can send files that are larger
> >than I can receive.  And I can download a file that I can not recieve by
> >email.  My lawyer tells me that they subscribe to service where they can
> >send emails with attached files, and their lients can go to the service to
> >download a file which they could not recieve through email.
> >
> >I find it really alarming that the Wilderness act
> >does not allow traditional  activities in the park.  These are parks,
> >not wilderness areas, but they both have the same operable model - their
> model
> >does not include people as part of the ecosystem.  the wildernesss is
> >supposed to be kept as if there were no people or no impacts from people.
> >This is not the real world , but a view of utopia.  I think that anytime
> >laws are put in place for unrelaistic ends, and to keep utopia, they will
> >untimately fail.  This s a prime example.
> >
> >I would bet that the very arguments that have been
> >set forth in this case, could be used to prevent people from using the
> park as
> >well.  And around here we have the Great Bear  Recovery program.
> >They want to "recover" the grizzly bears although sitings of grizzlies
> are as
> >common as bigfoot sigtings. and what few sightings there are are residents
> >of canada coming a few miles across the border.  Yet although there is not
> >a grizzly for haundreds of square miles, there are trails close by that
> are now
> >abandoned becasue the Grizzley Bear folk sdemanded that roads and trails
> be
> >abandoned to make an area for the nonexistent bears where they would not
> be
> >disturbed.  It is the same thing- what have to protect this over here so
> we
> >have to eliminate horses and people.  they want to make the people areas
> >unconnected ( contained), and small  - like a museun with lots of
> >"keep on the trail" signs and  keep the rest "natural" for the
> >wildlife.  a lot o fthe connector trails arond Mrtt Baker have been
> >abandoned, and it is evendifficult to gt to them, and the small people
> areas are
> >so over used and permitted that it is alarming.  The people do not have
> >poor wilderness skills, the parks have poor management
> >skills.
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