[pct-l] what is the best way to carry Heet?

Mon Apr 23 10:05:52 CDT 2012

Hi Ernie. After 30 years we finally meet...about time. No, we never met up
in person but Dan in Pie Town and the girls at a ranch (I think it was
around Buffalo Valley) talked about you...and I could be wrong with names
too...lol...been a while.  Roberto and I were know as Cheech and Chong. We
tried catching up with you guys but the closest we got was about a week
apart.  Roberto got hurt just outside Sula MT and we stopped there at Sula
for the winter. The following year we started at Sula and made it just shy
of the Yukon-BC border...it was the most awesome year...you're pretty much
on your own after the Canadian Rockies. The following year I was hurt early
on, spent 7weeks in the hospital but recouped and Roberto and I took off
again the following year and made to just inside AK (made our exit at
Eagle). Roberto stopped there and Kinch took off with me.  We had to flip
flop that year due to snow and ice logistics so we made it to Arctic
Village then flew (thanks to Mark Air) to Shungnak and did the Divide
section from Shungnak to Wales then returned to Shungnak and made it to
Anaktuvak Pass before the weather set in. The last year we did the
remaining section from Anaktuvak to Arctic Village. Life ain't been the
same since. I came back, organized a trek from Istanbul to Ireland along
the old Roman and trade route trails paid in full by Levi-Strauss but could
not find anyone to go with me. So I got drunk and stayed that way for next
4years, sobered up and started a rifle company called Cooper Firearms of
Montana. I retired from Cooper in 2009. There has not been a spring since
1985 that my body and blood runs wild to hit the trail. This year, that
will finally happen. I'm sure things have changed, people, the trail closer
to civie, and for sure technology. When we left Eagle in '84 it was -52F
that first night (march 27)...our packs and sleds we were pulling on skis
weighed a combination of 85lb each. My pack starting out this year will
weigh about 25lb not including any water. Now that is nice!
Nice to finally meet you.
Coop

On Sunday, April 22, 2012, Ernie Castillo wrote:

>  Dan:
> Ernie Castillo here.
> I don't know if you and I cross paths in 1980. I started out in March with
> Jamie Garrison and Mike Mckinney. We originally were known as the GMT
> Expedition. We met up with Shawn, Bernie. and others along the way and
> became known as the Revolving Ramen. I hiked a spell with Beth and Eli and
> finished up with Robert Stanley. At Castle Crags there was a large group of
> PCTers including Robert Merrill of British expedition fame.
>
> *Ernie Castillo*
> erniec01 at hotmail.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'erniec01 at hotmail.com');>
> 248 884 5201
>
>
>  > Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 17:33:21 -0400
> > From: dcooper at bigsky.net <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
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> > To: smcganty at yahoo.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
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> > CC: pct-L at backcountry.net <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
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> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] what is the best way to carry Heet?
> >
> > Yes. I am allegedly the first white man in modern history to do it. We
> and
> > lots of press folks have searched over the years to see if someone else
> had
> > done it. So far, I am the only one that has made it. I had 2 partners,
> > Roberto Delgado that hiked from Mex to just inside AK, and Rob Kincheloe
> > who went the rest of the way. It was a 6 year expedition sponsored by
> NIKE,
> > Woolrich, Wigwam Mills, and a great company called Wilderness Experience.
> > It began April 24, 1980 and ended May 7, 1985. My life has not been the
> > same since. I have yet to write the book...been working on it off and on
> > for 30yrs. I even met an elderly Eskimo woman who claimed to have met Bob
> > Marshal. There are a plethora of documentation and press clippings. I'm
> > sorry for rambling. But yes, I would be more than happy to help you in
> > anyway possible. Just ask.
> > Dan Cooper
> >
> > On Friday, April 20, 2012, shon mcganty wrote:
> >
> > > Are you saying you walked from Mexico to the Bering Strait?? I'm
> planning
> > > on walking the Continental Divide along this route, and I didn't know
> if
> > > I'd be the first or if it had been done before. I know of people who
> hiked
> > > the Y2Y, but a route along the CDT up to the Brooks Range and over to
> the
> > > Bering Strail I'd not heard of anyone doing that. If you have, I'd
> love to
> > > ask you a couple questions.
> > >
> > > Shon
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *From:* Webmail dcooper <dcooper at bigsky.net <javascript:_e({},
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> > > *Sent:* Thursday, April 19, 2012 1:58 PM
> > > *Subject:* [pct-l] what is the best way to carry Heet?
> > >
> > > I wrestled with this decision after dealing with the issue of white gas
> > > from Mexico to the Bering Strait on the Continental Divide. More
> people in
> > > the back country of North America have white gas...its a cabin staple.
> On
> > > the PCT which traverses and crosses so many access points to civie I
> think
> > > it's a toss-up for weight...now that is considering going solo or with
> a
> > > partner who shares weight. It sounds like you are planning for more
> than
> > > just 2. Considering the demands for boiled water for food, coffee, and
> the
> > > occasional instance of having to rely on boiling water for
> drinking....this
> > > is a no-brainer for me, go with a mountaineering/backpack stove that
> burns
> > > white gas. For your family the weight will be negligible. Get one with
> the
> > > fewest moving parts. Consider evening going on eBay and buying an
> Optimus
> > > 99. It's old school but it works flawless. You will end up carrying
> almost
> > > 2.5 extra pounds with stove and fuel and pick up faster boiling times
> and
> > > less hassle preparing meals. I am trying out an alcohol stove this
> year on
> > > the PCT to see how I do. But I am also going heavy on the dry end with
> > > fewer actual cooking demands.
> > >
> > > On Thursday, April 19, 2012, Scott Bryce wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 4/19/2012 1:07 PM, Vicky Mattson wrote:
> > > > > My husband, 13 year old and I will most likely not split up. My
> > > > > husband has to have coffee in the morning so I will be doing two
> > > > > meals a day. It looks like about 3 ozs to get a boil and a few
> > > > > minutes cooking time for a quart of water. It almost makes more
> > > > > sense to keep my pocket rocket, if I could find fuel.
> > > >
> > > > If you are boiling water for 3 people twice a day, your pocket rocket
> > > > may be a better choice than an alcohol stove. An alcohol stove is
> > > > lighter, but you need to carry more fuel. The amount of fuel you
> will be
> > > > carrying may be heavier than the weight you would save using an
> alcohol
> > > > stove.
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