[pct-l] Pct-L Digest, Vol 49, Issue 3

Thu Jan 5 15:42:27 CST 2012

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On Jan 5, 2012, at 4:28 PM, Johanna Santore <kaiserpt at hughes.net> wrote:

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>> Today's Topics:
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>>  1. Re: Achilles Tendon (Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes)
>>  2. Achilles Tendon (David Grayson)
>>  3. Top Ten Songs/Or Not? (mikey chapman)
>>  4. Re: Achilles Tendon (ambery-80243 at mypacks.net)
>>  5. Lone Pine to Ashland - Hike Whitney or not? (Anthony Curnow)
>>  6. Solo Oregon Section Feedback (Shawna Morris)
>>  7. achilles strain (juma)
>>  8. Re: Lone Pine to Ashland - Hike Whitney or not?
>>     (Yoshihiro Murakami)
>>  9. Dehydrated food (Lisa Seeley)
>> 10. Re: Dehydrated food (dicentra)
>> 11. Re: Lone Pine to Ashland - Hike Whitney or not? (Gary Wright)
>> 12. Muir trail ranch? (Joe Bastian)
>> 13. Re: Lone Pine to Ashland - Hike Whitney or not? (Brick Robbins)
>> 14. Re: Solo Oregon Section Feedback (Katie Muilenburg)
>> 15. Re: Where?s the Sierra snow? (Lisa Peru)
>> 16. Re: Dehydrated food (chiefcowboy at verizon.net)
>> 17. Re: Your Top 10 Hiking Songs (Pct-L Digest, Vol 49, Issue 1)
>>     (Hillary Schwirtlich)
>> 18. Re: your experiences with fear on the trail (Hillary Schwirtlich)
>> 19. Re: Solo Oregon Section Feedback (Eric Lee)
>> 20. Re: achilles strain (rob gratz)
>> 21. Re: achilles strain (Sir Mixalot)
>> 22. Thanks for the Oregon feedback (Shawna Morris)
>> 23. Who were the last thru-hikers of 2011? (Justin Byington)
>> 24. SUL/XUL Solo Enclosed Shelter Comparisons (John Abela)
>> 25. Re: achilles strain (giniajim)
>> 26. Re: Your Top 10 Hiking Songs (James Vesely)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 10:35:07 -0800
>> From: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Achilles Tendon
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Message-ID:
>>    <036F260B-FB24-4219-BAE5-54BDC4AE1207 at santabarbarahikes.com>
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>> If you don't want to put your hike off to try and heal your tendon  
>> you CAN realistically thru-hike with a sore achilles tendon. I did.  
>> It's still sore though. Probably always will be.
>> 
>> Diane
>> 
>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:00 AM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey everyone,  I'm still battling an Achilles Tendon strain and as
>>> Departure Day approaches ( May 1, 2012 tentative ) I'm becoming  
>>> more and
>>> more discouraged and hesitant to embark on a 2650 mile walk. I've  
>>> gotten
>>> conflicting advice from all sides, doctors included, and am  
>>> throwing my
>>> hands up in the air in frustration. Some say rest and do nothing,  
>>> others
>>> say stretch and exercise. I've done both and both seems to minimize  
>>> the
>>> soreness but has not eliminated the problem. Can I realistically do a
>>> thru-hike with a sore achilles tendon? Or am I doomed to never  
>>> realize a
>>> dream I have to thru-hike the PCT. I'm tempted to just say the hell  
>>> with it
>>> and push ahead and do the hike, but I don't want to bail out and  
>>> end up
>>> with a lame foot. Any experiences?  Please help. Thanks,   Mark
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 15:00:51 -0500
>> From: "David Grayson" <djgmd at centurytel.net>
>> Subject: [pct-l] Achilles Tendon
>> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>> Message-ID: <4168D205F4B64F48828511DE44CB8AFA at homepc>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
>> 
>> Mark -
>>   This is an important concern that needs to be addressed reliably. I
>> believe there are a lot of variables to consider. I trust Podiatrists as the
>> most knowledgeable and experienced clinicians regarding Achilles problems
>> and frankly anything below the knee.  I would ask a good Podiatrist about
>> your tendonopathy.   
>>   BTW - stay away from quinolone antibiotics (Ciprofloxin and Levofloxin)
>> as they are associated with spontaneous Achilles tears even with brief 10
>> exposures.  They are often recommended for traveler's enteritis/diarrhea -
>> but there are other safer alternatives.
>> [Dave Grayson] David J. Grayson, MD
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 12:44:02 -0800
>> From: mikey chapman <petergrubbfan at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [pct-l] Top Ten Songs/Or Not?
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Message-ID:
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>> 
>> If your past gets in the way of your future music enjoyment,your
>> better off without music. The thought of am/fm stations tuning in and
>> out on the crest gives me a headache,why bother? (been there,done
>> that!). The idea is that technology has now given hikers a chance at
>> musical clarity with low battery usage,and its lightweight,and compact
>> in size(take advantage!). I expect alot of oldtimers to say its
>> useless,but I think its because there was no way to drag there 8 track
>> players out on the trail,so it might be a little jealousy. For me,old
>> songs bring up emotions,but not old memories. Ive been listening to my
>> mp3s for years and I still love my music,I work with music all the
>> time,and it continues to motivate me. This is why HYOH is so
>> important,otherwise all our hikes would be the same(no thanks). Rock
>> On!
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 12:47:40 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
>> From: ambery-80243 at mypacks.net
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Achilles Tendon
>> To: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>> Message-ID:
>>    <17925963.1325537260777.JavaMail.root at elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
>>    
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>> 
>> I agree with Diane.  I've had Achilles tendon problems on and off for years; it's never going away.  But since 2006 I've been hiking 400 to 700 mile stretches of trail every summer.  Start slow in the morning when your tendon is cold and let it warm up.  Keep the weight you're carrying as low as possible.  When it hurts, take it easy and don't push too hard or go too fast. With the right insole and shoe system, there is no reason you should have to give up on the dream.  
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
>>> Sent: Jan 2, 2012 10:35 AM
>>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Achilles Tendon
>>> 
>>> If you don't want to put your hike off to try and heal your tendon  
>>> you CAN realistically thru-hike with a sore achilles tendon. I did.  
>>> It's still sore though. Probably always will be.
>>> 
>>> Diane
>>> 
>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:00 AM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hey everyone,  I'm still battling an Achilles Tendon strain and as
>>>> Departure Day approaches ( May 1, 2012 tentative ) I'm becoming  
>>>> more and
>>>> more discouraged and hesitant to embark on a 2650 mile walk. I've  
>>>> gotten
>>>> conflicting advice from all sides, doctors included, and am  
>>>> throwing my
>>>> hands up in the air in frustration. Some say rest and do nothing,  
>>>> others
>>>> say stretch and exercise. I've done both and both seems to minimize  
>>>> the
>>>> soreness but has not eliminated the problem. Can I realistically do a
>>>> thru-hike with a sore achilles tendon? Or am I doomed to never  
>>>> realize a
>>>> dream I have to thru-hike the PCT. I'm tempted to just say the hell  
>>>> with it
>>>> and push ahead and do the hike, but I don't want to bail out and  
>>>> end up
>>>> with a lame foot. Any experiences?  Please help. Thanks,   Mark
>>> 
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>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 11:24:48 +1100
>> From: Anthony Curnow <thearborant at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [pct-l] Lone Pine to Ashland - Hike Whitney or not?
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Message-ID:
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>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I've been reading the wise words of wisdom of you all for a few months now,
>> as I go about preparing for an adventure spanning from Lone Pine to
>> Ashland.
>> 
>> As we (a mate and I) are beginning at the highest points of the trip, we
>> thought it would be a good idea to summit Whitney in those first few days.
>> 
>> I'm finding it tricky cross referencing all the information to determine
>> how feasible this is...
>> 
>>> From what I gather, it's about 70 odd km from Lone Pine to Independence
>> (not including the extra 35km return to Independence itself for resupply).
>> 
>> How far is the Whitney summit off this trail, and is it possible to base
>> camp sort of lower, leave the gear while we summit, then head back down to
>> the main trail all in under a day?
>> 
>> Any advice would be appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks all!
>> [trail name TBC]
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 12:21:13 -0800 (PST)
>> From: Shawna Morris <shawnasong at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: [pct-l] Solo Oregon Section Feedback
>> To: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>> Message-ID:
>>    <1325535673.18595.YahooMailNeo at web113509.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>> 
>> I have decided to go on a solo trek for about 3-4 weeks along the PCT this year, and I'm looking for some input. There are a couple of factors I'd like to share. I haven't backpacked in 8 years, and consider myself very out of shape (I'm taking measures now regarding that). I am a 41-year-old mother and wife who is in desperate need of a spiritual, physical, and mental overhaul. I am from Oregon, now living in Boulder, CO. 
>> 
>> 
>> I was thinking that hiking from Ashland to Portland would be a good idea, but I'm looking for input. Oregon draws me for many emotional reasons, having just lost my 64 years' young father there who was a lover of the Great Outdoors. I was also thinking about doing something in the Sierra Nevada would be good, because I have a love affair with granite. I would like to do 1 or 2 town pickups at most, because I know myself that too much town exposure might give me an excuse to *quit*. I have some fear around being by myself. The fear is mainly about being alone in general, and of bears, and crossing ice. I WILL overcome these fears or at least face them, but I just wanted to share some of me while reaching out here for guidance. 
>> 
>> 
>> I have complete flexibility in the "when" I'm doing this, as well as how long to actually be on the trail. In consideration of my husband, however, 3 weeks seems like just the right amount of time.
>> 
>> I appreciate any feedback.
>> 
>> Shawna
>> 
>> ?
>> Got Greens Revolution .com 
>> ?? start a revolution in your body 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:34:17 -0500
>> From: juma <juma3 at cox.net>
>> Subject: [pct-l] achilles strain
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Message-ID: <1325540057.2594.4.camel at juma-desktop>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>> 
>> Hey Mark - See a physiatrist (physical Medicine and Rehabilitation MD)
>> that does prolotherapy.  If they suggest prolo, get the platelet rich
>> plasma approach.  If you get it before the end of Jan, you could hike by
>> April 30th without pain.
>> 
>> juma
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 07:28:11 +0900
>> From: Yoshihiro Murakami <completewalker at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Lone Pine to Ashland - Hike Whitney or not?
>> To: Anthony Curnow <thearborant at gmail.com>
>> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Message-ID:
>>    <CAMCqdRtg9hH_5=PmOcJPEMcxEpsiQ6c7NdBN7KQ7vtCp4dkRKQ at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP
>> 
>> Dear Anthony
>> 
>> Many people put their backpack at the junction of Mt.Whitney and Trail
>> Crest. In my 2010 summer record, I reached 6:30am at this junction
>> from Guitar Lake, put my huge backpack, went to Mt. Whitney with a
>> tiny summit push pack, reached at 8:00 am with slow pace. I returned
>> to the junction at 9:45. So, It takes around 3 hours to go to and
>> return from Mt.Whitney. My backpack was safe. No one want to steal any
>> stuff, because of the thin air. You need to carry only valuables to
>> the summit.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 2012/1/2 Anthony Curnow <thearborant at gmail.com>:
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> I've been reading the wise words of wisdom of you all for a few months now,
>>> as I go about preparing for an adventure spanning from Lone Pine to
>>> Ashland.
>>> 
>>> As we (a mate and I) are beginning at the highest points of the trip, we
>>> thought it would be a good idea to summit Whitney in those first few days.
>>> 
>>> I'm finding it tricky cross referencing all the information to determine
>>> how feasible this is...
>>> 
>>>> From what I gather, it's about 70 odd km from Lone Pine to Independence
>>> (not including the extra 35km return to Independence itself for resupply).
>>> 
>>> How far is the Whitney summit off this trail, and is it possible to base
>>> camp sort of lower, leave the gear while we summit, then head back down to
>>> the main trail all in under a day?
>>> 
>>> Any advice would be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks all!
>>> [trail name TBC]
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