[pct-l] Phones and other issues

Ellen Shopes igellenig at gmail.com
Thu Jan 19 12:44:08 CST 2012


I have never been a techno person, but I loved having a smart phone with me.  I didn't use it for connection on the trail.  It was my all-purpose device.  Took photos with it.  Used it in town to find my way around.  For example, in Big Bear, it gave me bus times and routes, the hours that stores and post offices were open.  With fire detours, it helped me map out alternatives.  This year, I'll have some music on it, not to use while hiking, but for those cold, wet discouraging moments in camp when I might need a bit of a pick me up.  When we flipped, we could map out our next moves.   Of course, some people are using the map and gps apps.  Smart phones are great!
For those who want to get map and compass skills, try and find a local orienteering club.  It's a great resource and gives hiking practice on rough terrain.
A reminder re medical stuff: while you are seeing your doc for any prescriptions you might want for the trail, update your tetanus vaccine.  It is much cheaper to do it before your hike than in the ER when you get a laceration.  
Elderly Ellen

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>  1. Re: Cell Phone Withdrawal (Scott Bryce)
>  2. Re: The birth of a baby bear (branko grujcic)
>  3. Re: Tent vs Bivy Sack (Paul Bodnar)
>  4. Re: Postholer PCT-L -Forum (gschenk1 at roadrunner.com)
>  5.  Tent vs Bivy Sack (Ron Moak)
>  6. Re: Using a GPS on a low snow year (gschenk1 at roadrunner.com)
>  7. Re: Tent vs Bivy Sack (Scott Williams)
>  8. Stoves (Mary Davison)
>  9. Starting at Sonora Pass June 1st (Lenny Leum)
> 10. Re: Stoves (tom aterno)
> 11. Re: Starting at Sonora Pass June 1st (Hank Magnuski)
> 12. Sierra Snow? (tom aterno)
> 13. A backpacking handbook in Japanese (Yoshihiro Murakami)
> 14. Re: Stoves (treerings at gmail.com)
> 15. Fobes Ranch Trail (JoAnn)
> 16. Re: Tent vs Bivy Sack (Tim Gustafson)
> 17. Re: Tent vs Bivy Sack (Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes)
> 18. Re: PCT Maps (Without bickering)
>     (Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes)
> 19.  Stoves (Frank Dumville)
> 20. Re: A backpacking handbook in Japanese (Scott Williams)
> 21.   Stoves (Lance Marshall)
> 22.    Stoves (Lance Marshall)
> 23. Re: A backpacking handbook in Japanese (Yoshihiro Murakami)
> 24. Video review of the TarpTent Rainbow (solo) (John Abela)
> 25. Re: Kahtoola microspikes and luna sandals
>     (gschenk1 at roadrunner.com)
> 26. Re: Postholer PCT-L -Forum/Ned's Forum on Postholer.com
>     (gschenk1 at roadrunner.com)
> 27. Re: Kahtoola microspikes and luna sandals (Scott Williams)
> 28. Re: Kahtoola microspikes and luna sandals
>     (gschenk1 at roadrunner.com)
> 29. Re: Fobes Ranch Trail (gschenk1 at roadrunner.com)
> 30. Sierra Snow (mikey chapman)
> 31. photo sizing (shelly skye)
> 32. Re: photo sizing (Ryan K. Brooks)
> 33.  Camp Anza Trail Angels (Pat & Paul) moved to Whitewater
>     (Ron Moak)
> 34. Re: photo sizing (Kathi)
> 35. Re: photo sizing (Kathi)
> 36. Fw: How To Light A Fire Instantly In Snow, Ice, And Wind
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 11:22:23 -0700
> From: Scott Bryce <sbryce at scottbryce.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Cell Phone Withdrawal
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> On 1/17/2012 9:31 AM, mikey chapman wrote:
>> I got 4 texts about Bin-Laden when I got signal near MT. Laguna,it
>> was info I needed to hear.
> 
> I got two voice mails telling me that someone had broken into my
> apartment and vandalized it. It was info I needed to hear. I was able to
> call the manager and make sure everything was being taken care of.
> 
> Since I run a small business, I needed some semblance of contact with my
> daughter, who was keeping the business running while I was gone.
> 
> I also set up an email account specifically for emails while I was on
> the trail. I gave the address to practically no one. That way I could
> ignore my regular email, but if someone really needed to send me a
> message, there was an email address I would check from time to time.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 13:34:27 -0800 (PST)
> From: branko grujcic <xo4xx at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] The birth of a baby bear
> To: Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>, PCT
>   <pct-l at backcountry.net>,    "Hiker97 at aol.com" <Hiker97 at aol.com>, Deems
>   <losthiker at sisqtel.net>,    Greg Hummel <bighummel at aol.com>, MONTE DODGE
>   <montedodge at msn.com>,    Edward Anderson <mendoridered at yahoo.com>,    french
>   bob <cyrille.soulas at gmail.com>,    "petergrubbfan at gmail.com"
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>   scott williamson <duckface99 at gmail.com>,    joseph kisner
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> 
> This is awesome, thanks for sharing.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 13:47:17 -0500
> From: Paul Bodnar <paulbodnar at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Tent vs Bivy Sack
> To: pct-L backcountry.net <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> 
> 
>> Does anyone have any wisdom related to using a bivy sack rather than a tent?
> 
> I used a bivy sack (MSR-E-bivy, 9 ounces) and a ultralite poncho (8 ounces) for my entire 2010 thru-hike.  However, I don't recommend this type of setup for most hikers.  Using a bivy requires a little more planning than using a tent.  
> 
> Humidity is the number one enemy when using a bivy sack.  When the dew point is reached (typically in early morning hours) water can collect on the bivy.   When water collects on the outside of the bivy then the moisture inside the bag can no longer escape causing water to accumulate on the sleeping bag.  The humidity problem can be reduced significantly by setting up the bivy correctly.   Most of the time in southern California one can simply set up the bivy under a tree to reduce dew collection on the outside of the bivy.  In times of possible rain or heavy humidity it is best to set up a poncho over the bivy like a small tent or lean-to.  When it rains for days it is almost impossible to keep the sleeping bag dry using a bivy.  I would have really enjoyed a tent in northern Oregon and Washington and therefore I can not recommend a bivy for a thru-hike.
> 
> Paul
> 
> HikeThru.com
> PocketPCT                         
> 
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 14:28:36 -0500
> From: <gschenk1 at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Postholer PCT-L -Forum
> To: pct list serve <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> 
> ---- John Abela <abela at johnabela.com> wrote: 
>>>>> I only object to people who discuss politics or people who bad-mouth Peanut
>>>>> M&Ms.
>> 
>> 
>> Personally, I prefer the peanut butter M&Ms in the orange bags :-)
> 
> Well, that's just ignorant!! Each peanut butter M&M weighs 0.000007 grams more than a peanut M&M.
> 
> If you thuhike carrying peanut butter M&Ms, you will have carried needlessly an extra 7.327 grams.
> 
> :-)
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 11:55:02 -0800
> From: "Ron Moak" <ronmoak at sixmoondesigns.com>
> Subject: [pct-l]  Tent vs Bivy Sack
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> 
> Tim,
> 
> First you should re-read Chuck's post a couple of times to understand what's
> he's trying to say. 
> 
> A four season tent in winter has a couple advantages. First it has more
> structure for snow loads, which is probably not needed in your case. The
> second is less obvious. Winter nights are very long and lying in a sleeping
> bag from dusk to dawn can be a nightmare for some. 
> 
> A four season tent will significantly reduce the drafts and will retain a
> bit more warmth when you're sitting up and active. Add in a little candle
> lantern and can have a cozy little home where you can spend a few active
> hours before retiring for the night.
> 
> However, once you've put out the candle and crawled into your sleeping bag,
> the internal temperature inside of the tent will equalize with the outside
> temperature. If there is more than a couple of degree difference, then it's
> a good sign that the insulation in your sleeping bag is insufficient.
> Remember any heat inside your tent is coming from you. 
> 
> My own rule of thumb is that my pad and sleeping bag must robust enough that
> I can lay them out on a ground cloth with no other shelter on the coldest
> nights and still sleep comfortably. 
> 
> 
> Ron
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 15:14:22 -0500
> From: <gschenk1 at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Using a GPS on a low snow year
> To: pct list serve <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <20120117201422.C1JJR.185033.root at hrndva-web10-z01>
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> 
> 
> ---- Hillary Schwirtlich <hillary.schwirtlich at gmail.com> wrote: 
>> Nope, you don't need a GPS, even in a high snow year.
> 
> IMHO, spending a couple of months learning and playing with map and compass is a good idea.
> No batteries to worry about, no solar chargers to fool with. And if you drop your map in the water, no problem.
> 
> Just don't get any DEET on it!
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 12:38:23 -0800
> From: Scott Williams <baidarker at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Tent vs Bivy Sack
> To: Paul Bodnar <paulbodnar at hotmail.com>
> Cc: "pct-L backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
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> Hi Tim,
> 
> I hike and camp in the Bay Area year round, for 50 years, Henry Coe, Mt.
> Diablo (even colder), Skyline to the Sea and Mt. Tam, and have never needed
> a 4 season tent.  I use the same tarps or tarp tents I use in the High
> Sierra and Cascades during the hiking season.  A 4 season tent is mainly
> built for heavy snow potential, something you'll never see in the Bay
> Area.  Steel-Eye is dead on in suggesting that you not look for a tent to
> keep you warm.  The tent keeps you dry, and the only time I ever set up my
> old Wanderlust on the PCT (an old tarp tent now made by Lightheart) was
> when it was going to rain or snow or when the bugs were eating me alive.
> Other than that, the combination of my clothes and sleeping bag was all I
> needed to cowboy camp even on snow in the Sierra.  Tents are always covered
> with frost in really cold conditions and it usually just shakes off.  If
> you put a fraction of the extra weight of a 4 season tent into a warmer
> sleeping bag, or down pants say, you will be much warmer overall.
> 
> As for the wonderful year round backpacking potential of living in CA, all
> you need for that is a good, light rain tarp and a warm sleeping bag.
> Exactly the same gear you will use on the PCT during spring, summer and
> fall hiking.  And Henry Coe is wonderful all year, except wading for a mile
> or more up the narrows is cold as hell right now.  The Orestimba Wilderness
> is gorgeous however, and the herds of elk incredible.  For folks out of the
> area, this is less than 20 miles from San Jose and Silicone Valley, and you
> feel like you're in the African Veld.  Incredible.
> 
> Keep hiking Tim, and good question.
> 
> Shroomer
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 12:24:09 -0800
> From: Mary Davison <pastormaryd at msn.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Stoves
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <SNT125-DS12A2A16C12FB14EBB375E3AD800 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Re: question on stoves
> 
> 
> 
> Before I went stoveless I used the Titanium Peal. Good stove, never failed
> me. Uses canisters. Yes, you can send through mail using Gottago/Yogi's
> instructions. I did many times. I sent the 7 oz size surface mail RMD and
> never had a problem with the post office here but if someone is looking at
> the fine print I guess it is only legal to do a smaller size. Funny, I was
> never questioned on it as long as I said RMD and surface mail only.
> Canisters are not too green friendly as you have a canister to throw away
> and sometimes have to carry a partial and a full between food drops. Can't
> beat the convenience - unless you go stoveless, which I now do.
> 
> 
> 
> Medicare Pastor
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 14:00:37 -0800 (PST)
> From: Lenny Leum <littleleum at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Starting at Sonora Pass June 1st
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
>   <1326837637.34229.YahooMailClassic at web38706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> 
> Hello peeps,
> I through hiked the PCT in 2009 and have about 2-3 months this coming year to do a big section of the PCT. ?I am considering starting at Sonora Pass. ?Any ideas as to the typical snow conditions around Bridgeport (Sonora Pass) and/or Tahoe area June 1st?
> Lenny
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 14:06:58 -0800 (PST)
> From: tom aterno <nitnoid1 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Stoves
> To: Mary Davison <pastormaryd at msn.com>,    "pct-l at backcountry.net"
>   <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
>   <1326838018.10110.YahooMailNeo at web160702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> 
> Yes, the Post Office rules state that the maximum size cylinder (canister) that can be shipped is 4 oz. ?ORM-D is the designation for ground shipment of a hazardous substance and a label containing ORM-D must be attached to the package.
> 
> I shipped a few canisters for a 2010 PCT thru hiker. ?Be aware that there are a few postal employees who are not familiar with the rules, and they balked at accepting the package. ?When I found the few employees who knew the rules, I only did business with them. ? ?
> 
> The Incredible Bulk
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Mary Davison <pastormaryd at msn.com>
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net 
> Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 3:24 PM
> Subject: [pct-l] Stoves
> 
> Re: question on stoves
> 
> 
> 
> Before I went stoveless I used the Titanium Peal. Good stove, never failed
> me. Uses canisters. Yes, you can send through mail using Gottago/Yogi's
> instructions. I did many times. I sent the 7 oz size surface mail RMD and
> never had a problem with the post office here but if someone is looking at
> the fine print I guess it is only legal to do a smaller size. Funny, I was
> never questioned on it as long as I said RMD and surface mail only.
> Canisters are not too green friendly as you have a canister to throw away
> and sometimes have to carry a partial and a full between food drops. Can't
> beat the convenience - unless you go stoveless, which I now do.
> 
> 
> 
> Medicare Pastor
> 
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> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 14:10:33 -0800 (PST)
> From: Hank Magnuski <hankm at mtinet.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Starting at Sonora Pass June 1st
> To: Lenny Leum <littleleum at yahoo.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.02.1201171409580.20099 at sv-04.mtinet.com>
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> 
> This year it will be 1/2 inch.
> 
> On Tue, 17 Jan 2012, Lenny Leum wrote:
> 
>> Hello peeps,
>> I through hiked the PCT in 2009 and have about 2-3 months this coming year to do a big section of the PCT. ?I am considering starting at Sonora Pass. ?Any ideas as to the typical snow conditions around Bridgeport (Sonora Pass) and/or Tahoe area June 1st?
>> Lenny
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 14:48:54 -0800 (PST)
> From: tom aterno <nitnoid1 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Sierra Snow?
> To: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
>   <1326840534.19734.YahooMailNeo at web160705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> I saw this posting on facebook from The Mammoth Times.
> 
> "You probably all know this by now, but Reno National Weather Service meteorologist Scott McGuire said areas above 9,000 feet are set to get between three to five feet of snow between late Wed/early Thur and early next week. Three separate storms predicted, with snow-to-water ratios varying between 10 to 1 and 15 to 1. Sunday's storm is expected to be the coldest, thus the best snow producer."
> 
> 
> The Incredible Bulk
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 08:39:22 +0900
> From: Yoshihiro Murakami <completewalker at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] A backpacking handbook in Japanese
> To: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
>   <CAMCqdRsH=hL97HTGPkuwaRbBrGeV4VkcqyCMVCwc-Nm4LdLN3Q at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP
> 
> I wanted write a scientific paper concerning backpacking, but a
> publishing company of human and social sciences promised to publish my
> essay. They also requested me to write more selling book. Then, I
> decided to write a backpacking handbook, in which I will include
> scientific essay. It will take around one year to write this book.
> 
> I participate here by chance,  but I would like to stay here more
> longer, because my brain is stimulated and inspired by this mailing
> list. I am not an adventurous backpacker, so my experience is limited.
> But, because I am a scientist, I can add some knowledge that  the
> experienced backpacker never write.
> 
> Thanks American friends.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Sincerely
> --------------- --------------------------------------
> Hiro    ( Yoshihiro Murakami  ???? )
> facebook  http://www.facebook.com/completewalker
> Blogs  http://completewalker.blogspot.com/
> Photo  http://picasaweb.google.co.jp/CompleteWalker/
> Backpacking since about 1980 in Japan
> JMT, 2009, 2010, 2011(half).
> ------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 17:24:35 -0800
> From: treerings at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Stoves
> To: Mary Davison <pastormaryd at msn.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
>   <CAGBqVDhcdyoXkP66MC_YODu2bH2WHB2W=h9Xw71h+hRXbCAC5w at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> Hi Mary
> 
> I'm inspired by you. God willing, I will be hiking to my 80s. I'm going
> stoveless as well. Why? I cook at home and enjoy the cold leftovers more
> than the warm meal in almost all dishes! I'm also vegan, which I couldn't
> recommend more. My base weight is in the nines. Life is good.
> 
> Treerings
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Mary Davison <pastormaryd at msn.com> wrote:
> 
>> Re: question on stoves
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Before I went stoveless I used the Titanium Peal. Good stove, never failed
>> me. Uses canisters. Yes, you can send through mail using Gottago/Yogi's
>> instructions. I did many times. I sent the 7 oz size surface mail RMD and
>> never had a problem with the post office here but if someone is looking at
>> the fine print I guess it is only legal to do a smaller size. Funny, I was
>> never questioned on it as long as I said RMD and surface mail only.
>> Canisters are not too green friendly as you have a canister to throw away
>> and sometimes have to carry a partial and a full between food drops. Can't
>> beat the convenience - unless you go stoveless, which I now do.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Medicare Pastor
>> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 17:31:49 -0800
> From: "JoAnn" <jomike at cot.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Fobes Ranch Trail
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <5FD1F7303BC6490CB51CC6E6F9B55FAE at JoAnnPC>
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> Does anyone happen to know if this trail is maintained on any kind of a regular basis? It?s in Section B, about 57 miles out of Warner Springs. I would be taking it 1.5 miles down to the TH off of Fobes Ranch Road (4E02). Any information will be appreciated.
> 
> are we there yet
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 17:44:08 -0800
> From: Tim Gustafson <tjg at tgustafson.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Tent vs Bivy Sack
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
>   <CACMcHMcuBe62zeOqFRtAoYACFpCiKTCRLRuEZBhRxje9_eSmyg at mail.gmail.com>
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> 
> I just wanted to say "thanks" to everyone who has responded to my
> questions.  I read every single reply and took them all into
> consideration, even though I didn't reply to everyone.
> 
> I get that a tent's job is to keep you dry, and that a sleeping bag's
> job is to keep you warm.  That makes total sense to me.  (The nice
> clean separation of the two is really stroking my inner OCD.)  But I
> think tents have a few other jobs that may or may not matter to each
> person:
> 
> - Keeping out the bugs (incredibly important to me)
> - Keeping out the breeze/wind
> - Some level of warmth, if only when I'm not all tucked into my bag
> 
> As a few people have mentioned: if it's raining out, it's nice to have
> a space that I can sit up in that's free of drafts and maybe even a
> little warm with the candle lantern that someone mentioned, than it is
> to stare at canvas inches from your face for hours on end.  I also
> really like the idea of being able to work on my gear in a
> moisture-free, breeze-free and perhaps most importantly bug-free
> environment.  Or to just sit and read a book for a while, or write in
> my journal.
> 
> I must have some invisible sign that only bugs can see that hangs over
> my head outside that says "Eat at Tim's".  Seriously, I've been
> standing three feet from my wife completely surrounded by flies all
> swarming around my head and face while she has not a single bug about
> her.  Having a refuge where I can hide when the bugs get bad at night
> is important to me.  It's a quality of life thing.
> 
> Will I sleep under the stars in naught but my sleeping bag on top of
> my sleeping pad?  Yes, I'll probably do that when the weather is good
> and the bugs are away.  But I'll still want to put forth the extra
> effort to lug along a 5 or 6 pound tent on certain trips when the mood
> strikes me.
> 
> When everything is said and done, I'll probably not buy anything for
> now and perhaps make do with an old Eureka 2-person tent that I have
> in the garage that's at least not totally ridiculous, and maybe if I
> get a good tax refund this year I'll buy a super-light 2-person tent
> later.  Bivy sacks seem to not be the answer for me, because they
> don't give me anything that my Solitaire doesn't already have, more or
> less, and what it specifically doesn't give me is the 4th season or
> the room for "living" inside the tent a bit.  And none of the ones
> I've seen so far are actually much lighter than the Solitaire that I
> already have.
> 
> So, thanks again!  (And feel free to tell me I'm a total fool if you
> really think so!)  :)
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 17
> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 18:05:52 -0800
> From: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Tent vs Bivy Sack
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
>   <0E8BD9A0-88F5-4355-A836-99E1D73277F8 at santabarbarahikes.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
> 
> Tim, the purpose of the tent is to keep the weather off of you, not  
> keep you warm. Air is supposed to blow gently through. It keeps you  
> from being trapped inside what would otherwise be a plastic bag  
> raining from the inside from moisture consolidated from your breath  
> and body heat.  Your sleeping bag is what keeps you warm. Keep your  
> tent and get a better, warmer sleeping bag. A 15-20 degree bag with  
> top-quality down will do the job and on the colder nights, you can  
> wear your down jacket and even your rain gear. Also, you will adapt a  
> lot while on the trail. Cold won't seem so cold and indoors will seem  
> hot and stuffy.
> 
> On Jan 17, 2012, at 10:00 AM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> So I went for a "training" trip this weekend at Henry Coe park with my
>> Eureka Solitaire tent.  The tent was woefully inadequate for the cold
>> temperatures overnight - I'm not sure exactly, but I would say it got
>> down to perhaps 25 degrees or so.  There was a significant
>> accumulation of ice crystals inside and outside the tent.  Since it is
>> a 3-season tent, it doesn't ever "seal shut" - the tent is no-see-um
>> mesh covered with a second layer that is essentially a rain fly, but
>> since the rain fly doesn't zip shut (it stakes to the ground
>> separately from the rest of the tent), there was no good seal around
>> the perimeter of the tent and I got a constant draft through the tent
>> all night.  I wound up "cocooning" myself into my sleeping bag and
>> holding closed the top as I slept.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 18
> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 18:26:47 -0800
> From: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT Maps (Without bickering)
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
>   <7A07F039-F171-4405-946B-BBA7711A7820 at santabarbarahikes.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
> 
> I agree with you, Alan.
> 
> Was the flower you saw that amazing yucca? Nolina paryi, I think? I  
> took many pictures of those. What an amazing flower!
> 
> I loved being able to wonder, "Hmm, what is that?" and find the  
> answer in the book. Sometimes the answer wasn't there so I wrote to  
> ask. What are those strange, bent-over trees coming down to Etna  
> Summit? I even got an answer (I think it was mountain mahogany but  
> now I don't remember.) I'll always be able to recognize Sitka spruce  
> thanks to the book. I never would have known those ugly trees near  
> Canada were beautiful tamarack.
> 
> I often felt like the guide book author was my invisible partner on  
> the trail. He made me laugh by telling me my pace would quicken as I  
> pondered some volcano about to erupt or cliff about to fall on me. I  
> cursed him to hell when he told me somewhere north of Mt. Hood the  
> way was mostly downhill and then he made me climb for two friggin'  
> miles before there was any downhill at all! How could he say that  
> with a straight face? Ah, the guide book. The Book of Lies. My hikes  
> wouldn't have been the same without it.
> 
> 
> On Jan 17, 2012, at 10:00 AM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
> 
>> For example, just in the Sierras leg:  (1) taking a break just  
>> north of
>> Tehachapi, I read about a particular rare plant which grew in that  
>> area,
>> identified by the young man who researched that portion of the  
>> trail for the
>> guidebook, and as I looked around, not 20 feet away was one of  
>> those plants,
>> in bloom no less!  (2) hiking north out of Kennedy Meadows, I  
>> passed through
>> an old burn that, just as the WP pointed out, was growing back but  
>> not as
>> the same forest, perhaps due to environmental change; (3) somewhere  
>> in the
>> vicinity of Crabtree Meadow, the WP mentions a creek with wild onions
>> growing a few feet upstream from the trail.  Wow!  There they were!  I
>> confess I had wild onions in my stew that night.  And (4) somewhere  
>> north of
>> Yosemite, as the geology of the terrain changes, the WP spoke of a  
>> large
>> white boulder of anomalous origin smack in the middle of the  
>> trail.  I'm
>> sure that I would have just walked right past it had not WP alerted  
>> me to
>> it.  So:  do not disdain the WP books.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 19
> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 19:00:11 -0800
> From: "Frank Dumville" <fdumville at earthlink.net>
> Subject: [pct-l]  Stoves
> To: "pct-l" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <19581B26286B4314B80EDF4DD21B3EF7 at AdminPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> The 4 oz limit on isobutane canisters that keeps coming up is wrong. 
> 
> The following excerpt from the USPS publication 52, Hazardous, Restricted, and Perishable Mail specifies the limit for the typical metal isobutane canisters is 1 liter. Read the whole paragraph.
> 
> 342 Gases (Hazard Class 2)
> 342.3 Packaging
>   c. Flammable Gases. A mailable flammable compressed gas is restricted to 4 fluid ounces in a nonmetal primary receptacle or 33.8 fluid ounces (1 liter) in a metal primary receptacle per mailpiece Packaging Instruction 2A must be followed. 
> 
> If anyone knows of a source that overrides this please reference it.
> 
> Snap
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 20
> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 20:11:52 -0800
> From: Scott Williams <baidarker at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] A backpacking handbook in Japanese
> To: Yoshihiro Murakami <completewalker at gmail.com>
> Cc: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
>   <CAGxcj128yjsxwHTwpRzOKAsgg3tpjRPYm8ZVqrrapFOmAbQCHw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> It's a delight having you as a part of this online trail community
> Yoshihiro.  Thanks for adding to it.  And here's to many more PCT section
> hikes in your future!!
> 
> Shroomer
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 21
> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 20:26:46 -0800
> From: "Lance Marshall" <lancem at wvi.com>
> Subject: [pct-l]   Stoves
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <4BEAF89D15554BD6B77549FEDE24A330 at lancedesktop>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> The 4 ounce limit is a Department of Transportation rule that applies to
> UPS, Fed Ex, and other carriers.  The USPS plays by its' own rules, thus the
> different 1 liter limit.
> 
> 
> 
> Here is a link to a previous discussion:
> http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/2010-April/037015.html
> 
> 
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> 
> 
> -Lance
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 22
> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 20:37:22 -0800
> From: "Lance Marshall" <lancem at wvi.com>
> Subject: [pct-l]    Stoves
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <1E58177DB5154CCDA26F1AF2B26F4366 at lancedesktop>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Oops, forgot the reference you requested:
> 
> 
> 
> Code of Federal Regulations (Title 49, Sec173.306(a)(1))  
> 
> 
> 
>        TITLE 49--TRANSPORTATION
> 
>  CHAPTER I--PIPELINE AND HAZARDOUS MATERIALS SAFETY ADMINISTRATION, 
>                     DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
> 
> PART 173_SHIPPERS_GENERAL REQUIREMENTS FOR SHIPMENTS AND
> PACKAGINGS--Table of Contents
> 
>              Subpart G_Gases; Preparation and Packaging
> 
> Sec. 173.306  Limited quantities of compressed gases.
> 
>   (a) Limited quantities of compressed gases for which exceptions are 
> permitted as noted by reference to this section in Sec. 172.101 of this 
> subchapter are excepted from labeling, except when offered for 
> transportation or transported by air, and, unless required as a 
> condition of the exception, specification packaging requirements of this 
> subchapter when packaged in accordance with the following paragraphs. 
> For transportation by aircraft, the package must also comply with the 
> applicable requirements of Sec. 173.27 of this subchapter and only 
> hazardous materials authorized aboard passenger-carrying aircraft may be 
> transported as a limited quantity. In addition, shipments are not 
> subject to subpart F
> 
> [[Page 602]]
> 
> (Placarding) of part 172 of this subchapter, to part 174 of this 
> subchapter except Sec. 174.24, and to part 177 of this subchapter 
> except Sec. 177.817. Each package may not exceed 30 kg (66 pounds) 
> gross weight.
>   (1) When in containers of not more than 4 fluid ounces capacity 
> (7.22 cubic inches or less) except cigarette lighters. Special 
> exceptions for shipment of certain compressed gases in the ORM-D class 
> are provided in paragraph (i) of this section.
> 
> 
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 23
> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:00:28 +0900
> From: Yoshihiro Murakami <completewalker at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] A backpacking handbook in Japanese
> To: Scott Williams <baidarker at gmail.com>
> Cc: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
>   <CAMCqdRtzctNX1_p5gBaj-OaXbCPNcbhjd49GXFdA=AirHgZx9A at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP
> 
> Dear Shroomer
> 
> I also like this online community.  In 2013 summer,  I can try some of
> the section of PCT, because my wife gave me a permit. So, if you are
> LA and free, I can hike with you. Until 2015, I cannot fly to USA
> except August.
> 
> I like your definition of "ninja poop", so I will introduce this
> somewhere in my book. A child learns bad words first.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 2012/1/18 Scott Williams <baidarker at gmail.com>:
>> It's a delight having you as a part of this online trail community
>> Yoshihiro.  Thanks for adding to it.  And here's to many more PCT section
>> hikes in your future!!
>> 
>> Shroomer
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Sincerely
> --------------- --------------------------------------
> Hiro    ( Yoshihiro Murakami  ???? )
> facebook  http://www.facebook.com/completewalker
> Blogs  http://completewalker.blogspot.com/
> Photo  http://picasaweb.google.co.jp/CompleteWalker/
> Backpacking since about 1980 in Japan
> JMT, 2009, 2010, 2011(half).
> ------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 24
> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 21:31:18 -0800
> From: John Abela <abela at johnabela.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Video review of the TarpTent Rainbow (solo)
> To: PCT <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
>   <CAJZPo3UjHymUk4=SeVjezXqNc2fvy=5HzVEu+-_+wiuuK9Ccvg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> Hey All,
> 
> I know we got a lot of TarpTent users here on the pct-l and hopefully
> a bunch of new folks looking for information for the 2012 hiking
> season!
> 
> I just uploaded a video I shot this afternoon of the TarpTent Rainbow
> which is a nice little ~35oz solo shelter
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Dm0vGtNnQ
> 
> 
> I also put together a video while back on the Six Moon Designs Skyscape Trekker:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHpoJFADkfc
> 
> 
> Just two of the number of ~2 pound shelters that are out there and
> available for thru-hikers this season!
> 
> John B. Abela
> HikeLighter.Com
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 25
> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 8:48:55 -0500
> From: <gschenk1 at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Kahtoola microspikes and luna sandals
> To: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <20120118134855.8ZP5I.198193.root at hrndva-web11-z02>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> I tried Kahtoolas on Mt. Baldy. Traversing a steep slope I did not like the way they rolled underfoot. If I thought I would need traction
> in snow, I'd rather carry a pair of aluminum crampons. YMMV HYOH, etc, etc, wow.
> 
> Gary
> 
> ---- Jim & Jane Moody <moodyjj at comcast.net> wrote: 
>> 
> 
> He's not the only one.? Last year I got "destablized" crossing Miller Creek. When I got to shore a ways downstream, I was missing one shoe (and one trekking pole, but that's another story). 
> 
> 
> 
> I went about 2 or 3 days to Donner Pass with one shoe and one Croc.? Where necessary, I used microspikes on the Croc.? You do what you gotta do. 
> Mango 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> 
> From: "Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com" <diane at santabarbarahikes.com> 
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net 
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 7:34:39 PM 
> Subject: [pct-l] Kahtoola microspikes and luna sandals 
> 
> Ned would be rolling over in his grave except he's still very much ? 
> alive so he'll be doing whatever living people do instead. This ? 
> person uses Kathoola microspikes with Barefoot Ted Luna huarache ? 
> running sandals and boiled wool tabi socks. Runs around the Pikes ? 
> Peak area in the snow, in a kilt, too. Incredible. 
> http://www.mindyourheadcoop.org/blog/?p=1592 
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> 
> Message: 26
> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 9:02:57 -0500
> From: <gschenk1 at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Postholer PCT-L -Forum/Ned's Forum on
>   Postholer.com
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <20120118140257.5SFPO.198276.root at hrndva-web11-z02>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> 
> ---- Fred Walters <fredwalters2 at gmail.com> wrote: 
>> I'm keen to thru-hike PCT but wont make it 2012. 
>> 
>> People get an impression from what goes on here and the resent messages do
>> not look good.  PCT now has a slight bad taste - we're having 2nd thoughts.
> 
> Don't mistake people presenting their different takes on what works on the trail
> with bitching, though it might come across that way on the Internets. It's not a good
> form of communication.
> 
> A lot of perspectives are presented here from Ned's desire to be ready for Mt. Everest
> should it suddenly appear on the trail, to Chuck using a single poncho as pack, shelter,
> rain gear, floor polisher and a desert topping. :-)
> 
> The trail is a different place. Who knows, if you are an old curmudgeon like me, once
> on the trail you might find hikers TOO friendly! To my knowledge there are no jerks
> on the trail.
> 
> Except maybe for that guy last year who kept leaving cigarette butts on the trail.
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 27
> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 07:25:29 -0800
> From: Scott Williams <baidarker at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Kahtoola microspikes and luna sandals
> To: gschenk1 at roadrunner.com
> Cc: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
>   <CAGxcj112VJh6QPhGdA8xrSJxB2EAG3auM0U7tuAUvhaiOzm=4w at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> Some folks report that Kahtoola microspikes can roll on you.  Kahtoola
> aluminum cramps, in my experience, do not.  Which are you talking about as
> the company makes both pieces of gear?
> 
> Shroomer
> 
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 5:48 AM, <gschenk1 at roadrunner.com> wrote:
> 
>> I tried Kahtoolas on Mt. Baldy. Traversing a steep slope I did not like
>> the way they rolled underfoot. If I thought I would need traction
>> in snow, I'd rather carry a pair of aluminum crampons. YMMV HYOH, etc,
>> etc, wow.
>> 
>> Gary
>> 
>> ---- Jim & Jane Moody <moodyjj at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> He's not the only one.  Last year I got "destablized" crossing Miller
>> Creek. When I got to shore a ways downstream, I was missing one shoe (and
>> one trekking pole, but that's another story).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I went about 2 or 3 days to Donner Pass with one shoe and one Croc.  Where
>> necessary, I used microspikes on the Croc.  You do what you gotta do.
>> Mango
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> 
>> 
>> From: "Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com" <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 7:34:39 PM
>> Subject: [pct-l] Kahtoola microspikes and luna sandals
>> 
>> Ned would be rolling over in his grave except he's still very much
>> alive so he'll be doing whatever living people do instead. This
>> person uses Kathoola microspikes with Barefoot Ted Luna huarache
>> running sandals and boiled wool tabi socks. Runs around the Pikes
>> Peak area in the snow, in a kilt, too. Incredible.
>> http://www.mindyourheadcoop.org/blog/?p=1592
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 28
> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 10:31:05 -0500
> From: <gschenk1 at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Kahtoola microspikes and luna sandals
> To: Scott Williams <baidarker at gmail.com>
> Cc: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <20120118153106.N8T5R.193162.root at hrndva-web20-z01>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> 
> ---- Scott Williams <baidarker at gmail.com> wrote: 
>> Some folks report that Kahtoola microspikes can roll on you.  Kahtoola
>> aluminum cramps, in my experience, do not.  Which are you talking about as
>> the company makes both pieces of gear?
> 
> I was thinking of just generic strap on aluminum crampons. Black Diamond or Camp USA
> for instance. They are light. 
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 29
> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:33:35 +0000
> From: <gschenk1 at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Fobes Ranch Trail
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net, JoAnn <jomike at cot.net>
> Message-ID: <20120118153335.LIN71.193180.root at hrndva-web20-z01>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> 
> ---- JoAnn <jomike at cot.net> wrote: 
>> Does anyone happen to know if this trail is maintained on any kind of a regular basis? It?s in Section B, about 57 miles out of Warner Springs. I would be taking it 1.5 miles down to the TH off of Fobes Ranch Road (4E02). Any information will be appreciated.
> 
> Hi JoAnn,
> 
> I haven't been up that trail in a couple of years, but have hiked on it fairly regularly for over 30
> years. That trail is in very good shape in my experience. It gets a lot of traffic, as the Desert Divide is a very beautiful place. You'll have no problems there.
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 30
> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 08:02:00 -0800
> From: mikey chapman <petergrubbfan at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Sierra Snow
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
>   <CAFr1it789mCzFU1xd-ueN6n9t5GKPbEX=3VNDNsCVc6GNJ+9zw at mail.gmail.com>
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> 
> The storm doors are opening here in the northern sierra,and let me
> just say,Thank You.  After the previous 2 seasons of great snow
> pact,alot of people expected another huge year,but so far its been a
> huge bust.  I hike all over the west slope to the summit,and the
> amount of "For Sale" signs around here is unreal.  Sure,it can still
> be a big snow year(see 1952),but the damage to the local economy will
> be felt for years to come. One bright spot has been the hiking
> weather,ive had the best few months of "spur of the moment" trips
> ever. Cant wait to dust off the snowshoes and the new Helly Hansen and
> Dutch Harbor gear(sweet stuff). Let it snow.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 31
> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:04:52 -0800
> From: shelly skye <shelbel26 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] photo sizing
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
>   <CAFfABpZAYpnbSy0QSU-z=QiPhfyn7GPkSBCt4BUchSjFzL7wug at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> If there are any iPhone 4S users out there, would you help me figure out
> how to resize images in my device? I want to be able to use my photos on
> Postholers' site but they are too big as-is and I can't figure out how to
> resize them. Thanks!
> 
> Shelly
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 32
> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 11:08:36 -0600
> From: "Ryan K. Brooks" <ryan at hack.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] photo sizing
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <4F16FC94.3000701 at hack.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> I gotta say that this is probably best asked on Postholer's site- not 
> here.  Nothing personal, Ryan
> 
> On 1/18/12 11:04 AM, shelly skye wrote:
>> If there are any iPhone 4S users out there, would you help me figure out
>> how to resize images in my device? I want to be able to use my photos on
>> Postholers' site but they are too big as-is and I can't figure out how to
>> resize them. Thanks!
>> 
>> Shelly
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> Message: 33
> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:10:35 -0800
> From: "Ron Moak" <ronmoak at sixmoondesigns.com>
> Subject: [pct-l]  Camp Anza Trail Angels (Pat & Paul) moved to
>   Whitewater
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Former Camp Anza trail angels Pat & Paul have pulled up stakes and moved to
> Whitewater, CA (San Gorgonio Pass / Interstate 10). The last few years they
> were forced to close their Anza facilities. Their new home is a couple
> hundred feet off the PCT. Far closer than their previous place. They will be
> open in 2012. 
> 
> The address is:
> 
> 55230 Rockview Drive
> Whitewater, CA 92282
> 
> Phone: 951-849-7506
> 
> With the loss of the Middletons a few years ago, they will be a welcome
> addition to the Trail Angel family. 
> 
> Ron
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 34
> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:13:03 -0800
> From: Kathi <pogo at pctwalker.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] photo sizing
> To: shelly skye <shelbel26 at gmail.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <4F16FD9F.7000304 at pctwalker.com>
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> Hi Shelly,
> In the camera roll or photo stream choose the photo you want, tap on the 
> photo then choose "edit" up the the right corner. In the lower right 
> corner is the crop tool, looks like a funky sideways diamond, click on 
> that and then the picture will be made into a series of boxes. Then you 
> can drag your fingers and resize.
> Kathi
> 
> On 1/18/12 9:04 AM, shelly skye wrote:
>> If there are any iPhone 4S users out there, would you help me figure out
>> how to resize images in my device? I want to be able to use my photos on
>> Postholers' site but they are too big as-is and I can't figure out how to
>> resize them. Thanks!
>> 
>> Shelly
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> Message: 35
> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:19:37 -0800
> From: Kathi <pogo at pctwalker.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] photo sizing
> To: shelly skye <shelbel26 at gmail.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Oops, I just thought of something... maybe you are meaning like a 
> smaller file size not crop it. I don't know how you submit to Postholer 
> but if it is through email, when you do that you get a choice to send in 
> smaller or original file sizes.
> Kathi
> 
> On 1/18/12 9:04 AM, shelly skye wrote:
>> If there are any iPhone 4S users out there, would you help me figure out
>> how to resize images in my device? I want to be able to use my photos on
>> Postholers' site but they are too big as-is and I can't figure out how to
>> resize them. Thanks!
>> 
>> Shelly
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> Message: 36
> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:27:18 -0800 (PST)
> From: Edward Anderson <mendoridered at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Fw: How To Light A Fire Instantly In Snow, Ice, And
>   Wind
> To: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Hi Gang,
> I thought some on this list might be interested in this. A handfull in a small Ziplock wouldn't weigh much or take up much space in your pack.
> MendoRider-Hiker
> 
> ----- Forwarded Message -----
> From: Off The Grid News <info at offthegridnews.com>
> To: "Ed Anderson, Long Rider" <mendoridered at yahoo.com> 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:27 PM
> Subject: How To Light A Fire Instantly In Snow, Ice, And Wind
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> Dear Ed,
> 
> Have  you ever noticed that the times when you really need to light a fire outdoors  are usually the times when conditions for lighting a fire aren't good? It's  damp out, or raining. Maybe even snowing. The wood is wet. It's windy. When  you're tired, cold, wet, and hungry, struggling to get a fire going is not  something most people enjoy.  
> If  you're trying to start a campfire, you need plenty of kindling to get it going.  If you're trying to light charcoal briquettes, you have to drench the stuff in  lighter fluid. Either way, it takes a lot of work and finesse to get and keep a  fire going. 
> Until  now, that is.  
> Imagine  this, instead. You've been backpacking along a tough mountain trail all day,  and you're tired, sore, and ravenously hungry. It's raining, the ground is wet,  and everything is damp. All you want is a hot, hearty meal. Normally, it would  be a struggle to get a fire going in order to cook dinner. But not this time. 
> You  reach into your pack, pull out a small handful of what looks like gravel, light  a match to it, and poof! Instant fire. Or, to be more precise, Insta-Fire. 
> Insta-Fire  is a breakthrough technology that provides fire almost instantly. It's one of  the most amazing survival supplies we've ever seen. 
> This  unique fire starter looks a little bit like gravel or kitty litter ... but with  some unusual properties. It's composed of a patented blend of volcanic rock,  paraffin, and wood pellets. The volcanic rock hangs on to the paraffin, and  acts much as a wick does to a candle. It holds the flame until the wood pellets  start burning. The entire mixture burns long enough to get a campfire or  charcoal briquettes burning. Just a small handful of Insta-Fire will burn for  15 minutes. It's especially designed to make starting fires with wood or  charcoal a snap, but you can even use it as the direct fuel source in an  emergency situation. (Always be sure to use it in a well-ventilated area.) 
> The Most Amazing Thing Of All About  Insta-Fire
> But  here's the most amazing thing of all. Insta-Fire is water and wind resistant.  If you've ever tried to light a fire when it's windy, you know it's darn near  impossible. But Insta-Fire makes it easy. Insta-Fire will hold a flame even in  gusts up to about 40 miles per hour. And moisture won't hinder it, either. When  you place a scoop of Insta-Fire on top of wet ground, snow, or ice, it creates  its own bed that is almost impervious to moisture. Damp wood? No problem. The  Insta-Fire burns long enough so that the wood will catch.  
> Having  Insta-Fire among your supplies means you never have to worry about butane,  heating oils, kerosene, or propane to maintain a fire. In a pinch, you can skip  the charcoal or wood and use Insta-Fire as the main fuel source. Lay down about  2 cups of Insta-Fire and light it. You'll have 30 to 60 minutes of fire, and  all you have to do to keep it going is stir it periodically. That's it.  
> Perfect for Outdoor Enthusiasts
> When  it comes to outdoor essentials, put Insta-Fire at the top of your supply list.  When you're camping, RV-ing, hiking, and backpacking, having a quick and easy  way to start a fire makes your outing that much more enjoyable. We suggest you  lay sticks or logs in a log cabin pattern, place the Insta-Fire in the middle,  and light. Then move some of the wood over the center of the flame. You'll have  a toasty, crackling fire in no time.  
> For  winter sports, it's even more important. Whether you're snowmobiling,  snowshoeing, cross-country skiing, even ice fishing, having Insta-Fire means  you have light and heat right at your fingertips. (If you want heat and light,  but not a full-fledged fire, just lay down a cup or so of Insta-Fire and light  it. It will burn on top of snow and ice.) Hunters and fishers who like to dress  and eat their catch immediately will have a fast and easy way to start their  cooking fire. Even boaters love it - there's nothing like pulling up to a  secluded cove and starting a campfire in the sand. (And if you own a cabin in  the woods, be sure to keep a stash there, too.) 
> Essential For Your Survival  Preparations
> You'd  think Insta-Fire would be a fire hazard, wouldn't you? But it's not. In fact,  it's considered non-combustible ... which makes it the perfect fuel-starter for  storing with your emergency supplies. We recommend you stash some Insta-Fire  with your 72-hour kit, your bug-out bag, your emergency supplies, and your  long-term food storage. Do you keep an emergency kit in your car? Be sure to  include some Insta-Fire. 
> If you  want to lay in a supply of emergency cooking fuel for your long-term food  storage, here's what we suggest you do. Stock up on charcoal briquettes (quite  inexpensive), and plan on 10-20 briquettes to prepare each meal. Then, pick up  a 5-gallon bucket of Insta-Fire. Just one-half cup will start a meal's worth of  briquettes. With charcoal as your main cooking fuel, Insta-Fire will give you  enough to prepare 80-160 meals. If you use Insta-Fire as the cooking fuel  itself, the 5-gallon bucket provides enough direct cooking fuel for 30-40  meals. (By the way, you don't have to worry about the Insta-Fire going bad. It  has a 30-year shelf life.) 
> No More Hassles At Home 
> Insta-Fire  isn't only for emergencies or outdoor recreation, however. If you've ever tried  to get a charcoal grill fire going, you know what a laborious process it can  be. Insta-Fire makes it easy. Lay the Insta-Fire on the floor of the grill.  Place the charcoal on a rack on top of it, being sure to leave a little air  space between the two layers. Light the Insta-Fire, and go grab a beer. There's  no need to baby the coals; they'll be ready for cooking shortly with no more  attention required. How about your outdoor fireplace or backyard fire pit? No  need to collect and lay down kindling "just so." Use Insta-Fire instead. One  match is all you need ... and then you can just sit back and enjoy the flames. 
> How To Get Your Supply Of Insta-Fire ...  and What To Do With When It Arrives
> Insta-Fire  is available in 5-gallon buckets (each bucket weighs about 18.5 pounds). It costs  just $59.95 plus shipping. To order, click here. Once your bucket arrives, here's what we recommend.  Open up the bucket, and make up individual packets of Insta-Fire. Scoop out ?  to 2 cups per portion and store it in a zippered plastic baggie. (You may want  to double bag it.) Then, stash the packets with your 72-hour kit, your  long-term emergency supplies, with the camping and boating supplies, and as  part of the supply kit in your car. Keep the rest of the bucket of Insta-Fire  with your dehydrated food supplies.  
> Lighting  a fire and keeping it lit has never been easier. No more fighting with the  wind, the wet, or the weather. Whether it's for fun in the great outdoors, or  for an emergency, Insta-Fire is something you don't want to be without. Click here to order now. 
> Sincerely,
> The  Team at Solutions From Science 
> P.S.  You won't believe how water-resistant Insta-Fire is! When you get your supply,  try this: fill a bucket with water, scrunch a handful of Insta-Fire into a ball,  and set it on the surface of the water. Light it ... and watch it burn, right in  the water! And if Insta-Fire can burn with this much moisture around it,  imagine how easy it is to light a fire outside when it's wet. Don't believe me? Order some yourself and give it a try. 
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