[pct-l] Pct-L Digest, Vol 49, Issue 38

thomas Kazmierski kaziertm at gmail.com
Mon Jan 30 16:49:25 CST 2012


Gracias Mary,

                    Much appreciate your kind words.  And yes, do meet,
share and smile with many wonderful people everyday.

Really am looking forward to hiking the CDT, but am hedging towards the
easier climate along the PCT or AT, will save the CDT for maybe next year
or the following.  Spent 26 years in CO and NM truly is, as they say, the
"state of enchantment".  Just a bit concerned about the high altitude
involved to do the CDT (to me that equates to mas frio).

May you have a super time and thank you Mary for responding.

Tomas


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>   1. Snow Report (Scott Williams)
>   2. Re: Snow Report (Dennis Phelan)
>   3. Backpacking Food For Sale- My loss/Your Gain (Karen Keller)
>   4.  starting from walker pass in late june? (Sean Nordeen)
>   5. For Sale: Granite Gear Vapor Ki Women's Back Pack with hip
>      pockets etc (Karen Keller)
>   6. Henry Shires Tarptent "Contrail" for sale (Karen Keller)
>   7. REI Sub Kilo +15 down sleeping bag-women's regular (Karen Keller)
>   8. Trail Update (nat at wildernessdancer.com)
>   9. Re: Henry Shires Tarptent "Contrail" for sale (Ron)
>  10. Re: starting from walker pass in late june? (Edward Anderson)
>  11. Re: starting from walker pass in late june? (Sue Kettles)
>  12. Re: Backpacking Food For Sale- My loss/Your Gain (Brick Robbins)
>  13. April hike (Mary Davison)
>  14. Section closures... (E A)
>  15.  Section closures... (enyapjr at comcast.net)
>  16. JMT in September (Gabe)
>  17. Maildrop question (Jason Minamora)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 11:30:43 -0800
> From: Scott Williams <baidarker at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Snow Report
> To: "<Pct-l at backcountry.net>" <Pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> I'm trail angeling for 27 Americorps volunteers this weekend in Norhtstar,
> just south of Truckee and drove over Donner Pass and the PCT yesterday.
> Wow, if things keep up like this, it may be a great year for an early entry
> into the High Sierra as I have never seen so little snow this late in
> January.  One to three feet at the pass and four inches in Truckee Meadow
> right now.  We're organizing a hike as it will be so easy in these
> conditions.  Bad for us skiers, but it portends a great hiking season for
> the Sierra.
>
> This could all change with one big dump, and they do happen as they did
> last year, but there is no big preexisting pack to build upon.  What's out
> there now could be gone in just a few days of warm spring weather.  Don't
> count on no snow, and if you can, hook in with Ned's snow courses, as a
> cold spring like we had in 2010 gave us lots of snow to deal with, as the
> average year just never melted out.  But it is hard to imagine even an
> average year happening this year with the lack of rain CA has had, and boy
> do we need it.
>
> Forecast for the next week is continued gorgeous.  No big dumps on the
> horizon.  We may get a dusting in a day or two, but the next chance of real
> weather isn't until mid February according to my Northstar weather guru
> at:  http://northstarsnow.blogspot.com/  This guy is better at the long
> range forecast for the Central Sierra than any of the usual sources, and
> his discussions are fascinating sometimes.
>
> Shroomer
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 12:11:27 -0800
> From: Dennis Phelan <dennis.phelan at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Snow Report
> To: Scott Williams <baidarker at gmail.com>
> Cc: "&lt,Pct-l at backcountry.net&gt," <Pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> For what's it worth; Oregon and Washington are at their averages for this
> time of year.
>
> Dennis
> On Jan 29, 2012 11:30 AM, "Scott Williams" <baidarker at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm trail angeling for 27 Americorps volunteers this weekend in
> Norhtstar,
> > just south of Truckee and drove over Donner Pass and the PCT yesterday.
> > Wow, if things keep up like this, it may be a great year for an early
> entry
> > into the High Sierra as I have never seen so little snow this late in
> > January.  One to three feet at the pass and four inches in Truckee Meadow
> > right now.  We're organizing a hike as it will be so easy in these
> > conditions.  Bad for us skiers, but it portends a great hiking season for
> > the Sierra.
> >
> > This could all change with one big dump, and they do happen as they did
> > last year, but there is no big preexisting pack to build upon.  What's
> out
> > there now could be gone in just a few days of warm spring weather.  Don't
> > count on no snow, and if you can, hook in with Ned's snow courses, as a
> > cold spring like we had in 2010 gave us lots of snow to deal with, as the
> > average year just never melted out.  But it is hard to imagine even an
> > average year happening this year with the lack of rain CA has had, and
> boy
> > do we need it.
> >
> > Forecast for the next week is continued gorgeous.  No big dumps on the
> > horizon.  We may get a dusting in a day or two, but the next chance of
> real
> > weather isn't until mid February according to my Northstar weather guru
> > at:  http://northstarsnow.blogspot.com/  This guy is better at the long
> > range forecast for the Central Sierra than any of the usual sources, and
> > his discussions are fascinating sometimes.
> >
> > Shroomer
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 15:46:31 -0800
> From: Karen Keller <karen.kellerford at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Backpacking Food For Sale- My loss/Your Gain
> To: pct-l <Pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> I will attach a spreadsheet workbook with five tabs that lists the
> provisions I have left from my aborted hike last year. Much of it is high
> quality Organic.  I have listed the prices I paid. I will sell for half of
> what I paid plus the cost of shipping. Let me know if you are interested.
> Thanks! Special K
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 17:50:21 -0600
> From: Sean Nordeen <sean.nordeen at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l]  starting from walker pass in late june?
> To: Pct-L at backcountry.net
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> Back in 2009, I left Walker Pass on June 20th and reached Canada on October
> 2.  The temps were not as hot as I had crossing San Gorgonio Pass at the
> I-10.  The normal water sources were all flowing.  I do not recommend
> camping at Joshua Springs as it had a bear problem.  Not surprising since
> its the only water in the area and a popular camping site.
>
> I don't think its too late.  As you pointed out, its ~50miles to kennedy
> meadows and the last several miles is along a branch of the kern river.
> You'll be fine.
>
> -Miner
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 16:07:09 -0800
> From: Karen Keller <karen.kellerford at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] For Sale: Granite Gear Vapor Ki Women's Back Pack
>        with hip        pockets etc
> To: pct-l <Pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> You can check this back out on Trails.com where it is on sale for $134.93.
> You can have mine for half of that. I also have two Granite Gear belt
> pockets, a Granite Gear shoulder strap pocket and a Granite Gear Cloud
> Cover rain fly for it. These accessories cost $90.80 altogether. I will
> sell those for half, too. It is a great pack. It is in great condition. It
> hiked from Campo to Idyllwild with me in 2010! Good times! Contact me at
> karen.kellerford at gmail.com if you have any questions.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 16:16:09 -0800
> From: Karen Keller <karen.kellerford at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Henry Shires Tarptent "Contrail" for sale
> To: pct-l <Pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
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> It was used several times between Campo and Idyllwild in 2010. It has been
> repaired (By Henry Shires himself!) where I put a tiny hole in it with my
> hiking pole the first time I set it up. it is roomy and lite weight. You
> see a lot of these on the PCT! Check out the specs on the Tarptent website.
> New: $199.00 My Price: $90 plus shipping.
> Karen.kellerford at gmail.comThanks! Special K
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 16:37:06 -0800
> From: Karen Keller <karen.kellerford at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] REI Sub Kilo +15 down sleeping bag-women's regular
> To: pct-l <Pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> It is in great shape. Fits 5'6" weighs 1lb 15oz. $80 plus shipping. Comes
> with stuff sack and cloth storage bag. I also have an REI full length 1 1/2
> " self inflating pad with stuff sack for $45. No punctures. Thanks! Special
> K karen.kellerford at gmail.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 18:09:23 -0700
> From: nat at wildernessdancer.com
> Subject: [pct-l] Trail Update
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Starting the 2011 season, The S Fork Agnes Trail is no longer
> maintained. All the guidebooks and PCT info I've seen still list it as
> an alternative route, so I wanted to share with everyone that it is no
> longer maintained and would probably be a nasty alternative route.
>
> The S Fork Agnes trail is in Washington just past Suiattle Pass. It is
> 2 miles shorter than the high route (our trail crew's name for that
> section of the official PCT), and runs in the valley parallel to the
> PCT.
>
> Hikers coming upon the S Fork trail this season will have 2 winters of
> downfall to crawl over (a lot falls down there). It is in the valley-
> ie no great views. And the trail has been getting into pretty bad
> shape w/ broken puncheons and huge ruts.
>
> Take the high route, enjoy the views, and anyone looking for a
> bushwacking adventure there is a fun schwack up to Banock Lakes from
> the PCT.
>
> Natalie
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 17:40:59 -0800
> From: Ron <chiefcowboy at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Henry Shires Tarptent "Contrail" for sale
> To: Karen Keller <karen.kellerford at gmail.com>, pct-l
>        <Pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <t3wqob73jfm881gxg36owp0t.1327887659945 at email.android.com>
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> That's a great price for a contrail.  Wish I needed one.
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Smartphone
>
> Karen Keller <karen.kellerford at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >It was used several times between Campo and Idyllwild in 2010. It has been
> >repaired (By Henry Shires himself!) where I put a tiny hole in it with my
> >hiking pole the first time I set it up. it is roomy and lite weight. You
> >see a lot of these on the PCT! Check out the specs on the Tarptent
> website.
> >New: $199.00 My Price: $90 plus shipping.
> >Karen.kellerford at gmail.comThanks! Special K
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 17:59:36 -0800 (PST)
> From: Edward Anderson <mendoridered at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] starting from walker pass in late june?
> To: Sean Nordeen <sean.nordeen at gmail.com>,      "pct-l at backcountry.net"
>        <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Hi Sean,
> I rode through the area north of Walker Pass in 2008. I was told about the
> resident bears there. When I arrived at Joshua Tree Spring I had an
> interesting bear encounter. I had just taken the spur trail down the hill
> and?dismounted Primo.?I saw a bear running down the hill, RIGHT TOWARDS
> US.? I immediately reached down and picked up a couple rocks and ran
> towards the bear, throwing them in his direction, and?shouting as loud as I
> could in the meanest voice I could make - "GET OUT'A HERE BEAR - GO-GO-GO"
> That worked well. The bear came to a quick stop did an about-face, and ran
> back up the hill even faster than he had come down. I have been able to
> scare bears away using that approach before.?I set up camp and never saw
> another bear at Joshua.?The water from the pipe was good - and there was a
> big water trough for Primo, but very little grass.
> MendoRider-Hiker
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Sean Nordeen <sean.nordeen at gmail.com>
> To: Pct-L at backcountry.net
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 3:50 PM
> Subject: [pct-l]  starting from walker pass in late june?
>
> Back in 2009, I left Walker Pass on June 20th and reached Canada on October
> 2.? The temps were not as hot as I had crossing San Gorgonio Pass at the
> I-10.? The normal water sources were all flowing.? I do not recommend
> camping at Joshua Springs as it had a bear problem.? Not surprising since
> its the only water in the area and a popular camping site.
>
> I don't think its too late.? As you pointed out, its ~50miles to kennedy
> meadows and the last several miles is along a branch of the kern river.
> You'll be fine.
>
> -Miner
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 18:21:27 -0800
> From: "Sue Kettles" <sue.kettles at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] starting from walker pass in late june?
> To: "'Edward Anderson'" <mendoridered at yahoo.com>,       "'Sean Nordeen'"
>        <sean.nordeen at gmail.com>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> I bet there are a lot of fun bear stories at Joshua Tree Spring.  When my
> friend and I arrived there - August - hot day, and thirsty and super
> tired... we found the shade wonderful and laid down and took a short, sweet
> nap.  When I woke up, I meandered a few yards down to the spring and sat
> down on the rock to get the piped water.  As I looked to my right, I saw
> that a rattle snake was trying to slither away from my rock I was sitting
> on.  I guess I interrupted his nap, or maybe his hunting grounds (foolish
> of
> me not to have seen him - I just wasn?t thinking very snake smart).  I
> jumped up and started yelling to my partner "rattlesnake - you gotta come
> look"... and as I was shrieking those words, I must have woke up the bear
> that had been sleeping in the tree above us... cause now we were watching
> the snake move slowly away AND the bear coming down out of the tree.  He
> was
> a junior bear - and just walked slowly down to the spring and kept walking
> out of the area.  I'm sure my noise annoyed him.  My hiking friend and I
> just looked at each other and were wondering...with big smiles.... did that
> just happen?
> I feel so blessed and fortunate to witness the things I have seen.
>
> SS/HJ
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Edward Anderson
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 6:00 PM
> To: Sean Nordeen; pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] starting from walker pass in late june?
>
> Hi Sean,
> I rode through the area north of Walker Pass in 2008. I was told about the
> resident bears there. When I arrived at Joshua Tree Spring I had an
> interesting bear encounter. I had just taken the spur trail down the hill
> and?dismounted Primo.?I saw a bear running down the hill, RIGHT TOWARDS
> US.?
> I immediately reached down and picked up a couple rocks and ran towards the
> bear, throwing them in his direction, and?shouting as loud as I could in
> the
> meanest voice I could make - "GET OUT'A HERE BEAR - GO-GO-GO" That worked
> well. The bear came to a quick stop did an about-face, and ran back up the
> hill even faster than he had come down. I have been able to scare bears
> away
> using that approach before.?I set up camp and never saw another bear at
> Joshua.?The water from the pipe was good - and there was a big water trough
> for Primo, but very little grass.
> MendoRider-Hiker
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Sean Nordeen <sean.nordeen at gmail.com>
> To: Pct-L at backcountry.net
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 3:50 PM
> Subject: [pct-l]  starting from walker pass in late june?
>
> Back in 2009, I left Walker Pass on June 20th and reached Canada on October
> 2.? The temps were not as hot as I had crossing San Gorgonio Pass at the
> I-10.? The normal water sources were all flowing.? I do not recommend
> camping at Joshua Springs as it had a bear problem.? Not surprising since
> its the only water in the area and a popular camping site.
>
> I don't think its too late.? As you pointed out, its ~50miles to kennedy
> meadows and the last several miles is along a branch of the kern river.
> You'll be fine.
>
> -Miner
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> Message: 12
> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 19:54:07 -0800
> From: Brick Robbins <brick at brickrobbins.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Backpacking Food For Sale- My loss/Your Gain
> To: Karen Keller <karen.kellerford at gmail.com>
> Cc: pct-l <Pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Karen Keller
> <karen.kellerford at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I will attach a spreadsheet workbook with five tabs that lists the
> > provisions I have left from my aborted hike last year. Much of it is high
> > quality Organic. ?I have listed the prices I paid. I will sell for half
> of
> > what I paid plus the cost of shipping. Let me know if you are interested.
> > Thanks! Special K
> >
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> Message: 13
> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 20:32:03 -0800
> From: Mary Davison <pastormaryd at msn.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] April hike
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Thomas Kazmierski,
>
>
>
> Whichever trail you decide on, have a wonderful time! I suspect you are a
> much younger and faster hiker than I am so hiking together would probably
> not work too well. I am also only a long section hiker, not a thru. But for
> what its worth, I am also a "retired" PCV, albeit from many years ago
> (Turkey 1965-67) and I will be starting the CDT April 1. (April Fool's Day
> -
> I think there is something rather appropriate about that.) On AT or PCT you
> will meet many people, possibly retired Peace Corps Volunteers - I have met
> a few over the years on both trails. But PCVs or not, you will meet
> wonderful people and some will become lifelong friends. There won't be as
> many people on the CDT so if you want company your best bets are AT or PCT.
> Happy hiking.
>
>
>
> Medicare Pastor
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 22:55:36 -0600
> From: E A <afishnamedcarl at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Section closures...
> To: PCT-1 <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Are there expected sections closures this year???  I haven't kept up on the
> trail no since my 2009 nine hike got cut short just short of Whitney.
>
> ThAnks
>
> Edan
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:22:02 +0000 (UTC)
> From: enyapjr at comcast.net
> Subject: [pct-l]  Section closures...
> To: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Cc: afishnamedcarl at gmail.com
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> > Are there expected sections closures this year???
>
> If nothing else once the 'hiking season' arrives there will be the 'Frog'
> closure in section D ("Endangered Species Detour")...
> On the PCTA home page, <http://pcta.org/>, the top link on the left
> sidebar is "Trail Closure Information"...
>
> For 'reports' from the trail click on the "Trail Conditions" link in the
> right sidebar - though some reports should be taken
> with a 'grain of salt' due to the reporter's hiking experience and/or
> personal opinion(s)...   ;-/
> One can also call toll-free 888-PC-TRAIL (888-728-7245) for trail
> conditions...
>
> Happy trails!!!
> Jim (PITA)
>
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>
> Message: 16
> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 06:31:46 -0800 (PST)
> From: Gabe <sandman_e_mail at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] JMT in September
> To: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
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> Howdy,
> Lurkin a long while and now I have a question I haven't seen (lately). I
> am wanting to do a N-S JMT thru starting the last week of August this year.
> Any one think this sounds like a really super or really silly idea? What
> does Mt. Whitney tend to look like by the last week of September? Water?
> Reading beyond jmt.org and The Essential Guide? Aug. 27 is the earliest
> date I could reasonably expect to hit the trail. Thoughts?
> -Gabe
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 08:47:09 -0800
> From: Jason Minamora <jminamora at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Maildrop question
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
>        <CAJPQxj6xmrQvPuca990XR2+HMRRO79Ljy9dft44wv9bXpQYagQ at mail.gmail.com
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> Hi all,
>
> I am planning on sending a few (< 10) boxes up the trail this year
> with an ETA on each box. Will the PO throw away my box if the ETA is
> too far ahead, like two months? I'd like to send extra gear to various
> places in Oregon and Washington and don't want the post office to
> throw this stuff away because it arrived too early. Thanks!
>
> Jason
>
>
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