[pct-l] Pct-L Digest, Vol 55, Issue 30
Carol Feinberg
carol.feinberg at yahoo.com
Mon Jul 30 12:34:51 CDT 2012
Re: Food Storage
Ed Jarett made a good point in mentioning that bear canisters are required in some areas. Might as well spend the money. Most of the National Parks in the Sierras expect you to have them.
Two weeks ago on Forester pass we encountered a ranger rushing to the site of a bear incident in Vidette Meadows which she described as "as serious as it gets." Two bears, one described as "habituated" went after some backpackers food. The cost of your canister can be put down as cheap insurance against a bear used to taking food from hikers tearing up your gear while trying to hijack your food.
Have fun.
Carol Feinberg
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Injinji Toesocks - Friend or Foe? (CClark)
2. montbell thermawrap (CClark)
3. food storage strategy (mike Shoys)
4. Fwd: trail closed north of Belden (Meridith Rosendahl)
5. Re: mid layer? montbell thermawrap
(Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes)
6. Re: Injinji Toesocks - Friend or Foe? (Tortoise)
7. mid layer? montbell thermawrap (Maxine Weyant)
8. Re: Injinji Toesocks - Friend or Foe? (Cat Gunderson)
9. Re: food storage strategy (CHUCK CHELIN)
10. Re: food storage strategy (Thomas Jamrog)
11. Lost katadyn filter (Andrew Schleif)
12. Solar chargers.... (Isabella)
13. Re: Gear list (Ron Cordell)
14. Final pre-trip blog entry (Matthew Schneider)
15. Re: Gear list2 foot su (Clifford McDonald)
16. Re: food storage strategy (Ed Jarrett)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:49:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: CClark <dr_carolyn at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Injinji Toesocks - Friend or Foe?
To: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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Hi Cat,
?
I love Injinjis for day hikes.?
?
However, for backpacking, I find it hard to get dust and sand out of the toes when I just rinse them out in water without a washing machine.? Due to embedded dust, I end up getting blisters between my toes.??Then there's no room?for moleskin or blister bandages.? However, my feet have a high tendency to get blisters, so they might work for you.
?
Carolyn AKA Soul Doctor
?
?
<<Message: 5
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 10:26:07 -0500
From: Cat Gunderson <cathi at cathigunderson.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Injinji Toesocks - Friend or Foe?
I've just discovered Injinji toe socks and, although the concept sounds
good, I'm skeptical about their ability to deter blisters. Any of you tried
them?
Cat>>>
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:09:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: CClark <dr_carolyn at yahoo.com>
Subject: [pct-l] montbell thermawrap
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Ryan,
?
I just finished the JMT portion of the PCT.? I tend to get hypothermic incredibly?easily.?
?
I was quite warm and comfy, even in the sleet storm we encountered, with the following four?layers (when NOT hiking): REI midweight zip-T; Montbell Thermawrap vest; REI Primaloft jacket; and O2 rain jacket. When hiking in rain, I just used a GoLite shirt, windshirt, and poncho.
?
We were only rained on three times.??Most of the time this was more clothing than I needed, but to me it was far worth the weight to carry these items for the three times I needed them all.
Enjoy!
Carolyn Clark, AKA Soul Doctor.
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 15:50:55 -0700
From: Ryan Clark <kamikazehummingbirds at gmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] mid layer? montbell thermawrap
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has anyone had experience with the synthetic montbell thermawrap? >>>>>
P?? Please consider the environment before printing this email.
Carolyn Clark, Ph.D.
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 17:42:42 -0700
From: mike Shoys <mashoys at gmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] food storage strategy
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hello all,
i'm attaining all of the gear i'll need for the pct and have come to food
storage and need help. from what i've heard rodents are a frequent problem
and bears a less frequent problem. i imagine hanging a food bag will be out
of question for much of the desert, but where do most of you store your
food at night? in the tent or in the trees? i'd love to bypass the extra
chore if it's not a foolish idea, and i'm thinking of getting one of these
if hanging food is more desirable... 4.7 oz. and 60 bucks... seems a bit
spendy but not completely out of question:
http://gossamergear.com/packs/bearister-food-hanging-system.html
would love to hear your thoughts on it.
mike
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 20:26:55 -0700
From: Meridith Rosendahl <meridith.rosendahl at gmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Fwd: trail closed north of Belden
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From: ljbraaten at aol.com <ljbraaten at aol.com>
Date: Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 2:09 PM
Subject: trail closed north of Belden
To: info at pcta.org
Cc: midriverrv at sisqtel.net, drakesbad at calparksco.com, goodshep6 at juno.com,
info at callahanslodge.com, bill at billperson.org, info at stehekinlanding.com,
tom_mesereau at msn.com, mark.f.hoffmann at gmail.com, bobbnweav at gmail.com,
notjanie at juno.com, andrea at dinsmoreshikerhaven.com,
meridith.rosendahl at gmail.com, jomike at cot.net, alderbrook at sisqtel.net,
mikeh at casaherrera.com, ljbraaten at aol.com
Hi, this is Laurie from Little Haven near Belden. There's a fire on the
pacific crest trail north of belden. the trail will be closed between
Belden and highway 36 for the next 3 or 4 days. Hikers will need to skip
this section until the trail is open again. (Or, if they have good maps
they can find alternate routes via the Butt Lake forestry road off of
caribou road.)
We will be closing for overnight stays beginning august 1, but are still
available to pick up packages.
Laurie (and Brenda)
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 20:40:14 -0700
From: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] mid layer? montbell thermawrap
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I don't know anything about the thermawrap. But the PCT in June isn't
cold during the day unless there's some bad weather happening. So if
it is useful in bad weather then it'll be good. Otherwise you
probably won't need to wear it much unless you do a lot of sitting
around in camp or in breezy high places. And you might need it in
your sleeping bag if you like to camp in cold sinking air places like
lakes and meadows.
On Jul 29, 2012, at 10:00 AM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
> From: Ryan Clark <kamikazehummingbirds at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] mid layer? montbell thermawrap
>
> has anyone had experience with the synthetic montbell thermawrap? im
> curious if it is sufficiently warm enough for a through hike
> of the JMT durring PCT thru-season? my layering system will be
> patagonia lightweight 2 capaline long sleeve (might use for sleeping
> and have a 100 weight icebreakers thermal for hiking, not sure yet.),
> mountain hardware canyon shirt, marmot driclime, marmot precip
> and the montbell thermawrap. what do you all think? overboard?
> underboard? i want to hear it all!
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 20:48:25 -0700
From: Tortoise <Tortoise73 at charter.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Injinji Toesocks - Friend or Foe?
To: CClark <dr_carolyn at yahoo.com>
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We've had similar discussions before. But the first question I have is are
your shoes wide enough thru the ball of your feet and especially the toes.
From what I've seen, most shoes and boots have a shape that squeezes the
toes together to fit the shoe rather than having a shoe wide enough for the
toes.
Like some others, I buy shoes that are longer and wider (especially in the
toes) so my toes can be close to their natural position. I buy what fits
me, not what the shoe store recommends.
Fortunately also my feet get few blisters. Last couple I've had is when my
toes got squeezed together and rubbed a blister.
Tortoise
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On 2012.07.29 15:49, CClark wrote:
> Hi Cat,
>
> I love Injinjis for day hikes.
>
> However, for backpacking, I find it hard to get dust and sand out of the toes when I just rinse them out in water without a washing machine. Due to embedded dust, I end up getting blisters between my toes. Then there's no room for moleskin or blister bandages. However, my feet have a high tendency to get blisters, so they might work for you.
>
> Carolyn AKA Soul Doctor
>
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 01:19:06 -0700
From: Maxine Weyant <weyantm at msn.com>
Subject: [pct-l] mid layer? montbell thermawrap
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Ryan,
I had a Montbell Thermawrap jacket and I loved it. It weighed 7.85 oz. I think it was a Men's SM or XS, they didn't have a WMN's version yet when it first came out. I'd still have it if it hadn't been stolen (long story.) I bought it when it first came out, when I was starting to transition out of heavier polar fleece jackets several years ago. I live in WA and really wanted a down jacket but the rains here made me reluctant to commit to down until a few years ago, when the outer fabrics had gotten lighter and more water resistant.
I tend to sleep really cold so I often wear my jacket inside my sleeping bag. I did the JMT section of the PCT and the northernmost section of WA with that Thermawrap jacket and was only cold at night or first thing in the am. The jacket was a little too cold for me if there was frost, or if my water bottle had a little ice in it. If I was hiking, the jacket was just fine. I could use an extra wind layer like my Marmot Precip jacket if I was going through a blustery cold pass. Later on I bought what I felt was the next lightest thing in the same concept, the Montbell down inner jacket. I used it instead of a fleece layer since it weighed only 6.35 oz.and it seemed like a good backup in case I got caught in a "situation." I found I only used the 2 layers together as a jacket once, and it was when I wasn't actually hiking but eating breakfast and getting up on a cold morning at 11,500 ft. I used the down inner jacket on my legs and feet in
my sleeping bag a lot however,
so I was glad to have both.
Finally, I bought a North Face 900 Down jacket that weighs 8.35 oz, which is less than the 2 Montbell jackets together. My fleece is a thin pullover, but it still weighs 6.7 oz. My other layer is a mid-weight capilene. I must admit that 90% of the time, I'm hiking only in shorts and either a 2oz sleeveless shell or a sun shirt (Ex Officio DryFlylight.)
One thing I liked about the Montbell Thermawrap was the fact that the liners of the pockets formed a pouch on the inside that I could use as an extra pocket by wedging stuff between the pocket liner and the inside of the front of the jacket. Also, I liked the way it could compress into something tiny and easy to stuff in and pull out of a small daypack. I used it on the Camino de Santiago in Spain and in numerous urban and rural settings in Europe and the US.
So, if you're a heat-generating type, it may be just right for you most of the time, except maybe if you're in the Northern half of WA after September 15th or so, or in the Sierras when it's below 35 degrees.
Dys-feng shui-nal
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 06:17:30 -0500
From: Cat Gunderson <cathi at cathigunderson.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Injinji Toesocks - Friend or Foe?
To: <Pct-L at backcountry.net>
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Hi Bill,
I am the creator of this post and I don't know why your name appeared in the
subject line. I want to heartily thank everyone for your great
suggestions/feedback to my question. I can hardly wait to get on the trail
and meet some of you in 2013!
On 7/29/12 12:08 AM, "Bill Burge" <bill at burge.com> wrote:
Why am I mentioned in the Subject?
I did not start this thread and I am not quoted in any of the material in
your post...
SomeGuy
Bill Burge
bill at burge.com
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 08:52:11 -0700
From: CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] food storage strategy
To: mike Shoys <mashoys at gmail.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Good morning, Mike,
I?ve been hiking the Mountain West ? off and on -- since the 1950s; the
vast majority of the time sleeping under the stars or under an open tarp
rather than in an enclosed tent. Except where bear ?cans are required, I
keep my grub in one or two SilNylon sacks at the head of my bed. I?ve not
lost any food, and only a couple of times have I heard the faint
scritch-scritch-scritch of little night critter poking around, and had to
chase it off.
It probably helps that I avoid ? but not entirely ? the most prominent
hiker campsites. That not only avoids many of the experienced
camp-critters, but it also allows the larger sites to be used by groups of
other hikers with tents, since all I need is a mostly flat and level patch
about 2? x 7? in size.
Other experienced hikers have tales of mice getting into their chow, but I
do not. Maybe it?s just good luck.
Steel-Eye
-Hiking the Pct since before it was the PCT ? 1965
http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye
http://www.trailjournals.com/SteelEye09/
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 5:42 PM, mike Shoys <mashoys at gmail.com> wrote:
> hello all,
>
> i'm attaining all of the gear i'll need for the pct and have come to food
> storage and need help. from what i've heard rodents are a frequent problem
> and bears a less frequent problem. i imagine hanging a food bag will be out
> of question for much of the desert, but where do most of you store your
> food at night? in the tent or in the trees? i'd love to bypass the extra
> chore if it's not a foolish idea, and i'm thinking of getting one of these
> if hanging food is more desirable... 4.7 oz. and 60 bucks... seems a bit
> spendy but not completely out of question:
>
> http://gossamergear.com/packs/bearister-food-hanging-system.html
>
> would love to hear your thoughts on it.
>
>
> mike
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:18:58 -0400
From: Thomas Jamrog <balrog at midcoast.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] food storage strategy
To: CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net>
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I did the same as Steeleye, but used the Ursak Minor on my thru hike, generally inside my tent . I camped with other guys who slept with their food bags, but my food escaped being raided by rodents. Theirs did- could be luck. I saw some small nibble marks on the fabric, but none got through.
Uncle Tom .
" When one cannot be sure that there are many days left, each single day becomes as important as a year, and one does not waste and hour in wishing that that hour were longer, but simply fills it, like a smaller cup, as high as it will go without spilling over" - Natalie Kusz
On Jul 30, 2012, at 11:52 AM, CHUCK CHELIN wrote:
> Good morning, Mike,
>
> I?ve been hiking the Mountain West ? off and on -- since the 1950s; the
> vast majority of the time sleeping under the stars or under an open tarp
> rather than in an enclosed tent. Except where bear ?cans are required, I
> keep my grub in one or two SilNylon sacks at the head of my bed. I?ve not
> lost any food, and only a couple of times have I heard the faint
> scritch-scritch-scritch of little night critter poking around, and had to
> chase it off.
>
> It probably helps that I avoid ? but not entirely ? the most prominent
> hiker campsites. That not only avoids many of the experienced
> camp-critters, but it also allows the larger sites to be used by groups of
> other hikers with tents, since all I need is a mostly flat and level patch
> about 2? x 7? in size.
>
> Other experienced hikers have tales of mice getting into their chow, but I
> do not. Maybe it?s just good luck.
>
> Steel-Eye
>
> -Hiking the Pct since before it was the PCT ? 1965
>
> http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye
>
> http://www.trailjournals.com/SteelEye09/
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 5:42 PM, mike Shoys <mashoys at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hello all,
>>
>> i'm attaining all of the gear i'll need for the pct and have come to food
>> storage and need help. from what i've heard rodents are a frequent problem
>> and bears a less frequent problem. i imagine hanging a food bag will be out
>> of question for much of the desert, but where do most of you store your
>> food at night? in the tent or in the trees? i'd love to bypass the extra
>> chore if it's not a foolish idea, and i'm thinking of getting one of these
>> if hanging food is more desirable... 4.7 oz. and 60 bucks... seems a bit
>> spendy but not completely out of question:
>>
>> http://gossamergear.com/packs/bearister-food-hanging-system.html
>>
>> would love to hear your thoughts on it.
>>
>>
>> mike
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 11:31:01 -0700
From: Andrew Schleif <schleifandrew at gmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Lost katadyn filter
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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I met a section hiker named Chris from Redding, Ca last week near parks
creek road and he mentioned losing his filter. It has been found and is
near Etna Summit. Chris if you're on here send me a message and I'll let
you know where to find it.
Andrew
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:09:57 -0700
From: "Isabella" <isabella at bendnet.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Solar chargers....
To: <Pct-L at backcountry.net>
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And along the same conversation, what is anybody finding is the easiest to charge, lightest solar charger?
Mademoisella
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 16:56:56 -0700
From: Ron Cordell <ron.cordell at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Gear list
To: Clifford McDonald <clifmcdon at comcast.net>
Cc: PCT List <pct-l at backcountry.net>, dm at quixnet.net
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Can't speak for Ed, but I use Tyvek for my ground sheet. From his gear list
it appears he does the same.
-ronc
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Clifford McDonald <clifmcdon at comcast.net>wrote:
> Ed:
> >From your gear list; what is the 2 foot square chunk of tyvek used for?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Ed Jarrett
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 8:23 PM
> To: dm at quixnet.net; PCT List
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Gear list
>
>
> The link below is to my current gear list and is what I will be using
> through the bulk of Oregon starting next week. It does use a hammock
> rather
> than a tent/tarp, but otherwise may give you some ideas. The earlier
> articles it reference describe my reasoning for the choices I made.
> http://aclayjar.blogspot.com/2012/04/sample-gear-list.html
>
> Ed Jarretthttp://aclayjar.blogspot.com/
>
> > From: dm at quixnet.net
> > To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> > Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 19:16:45 -0500
> > Subject: [pct-l] Gear list
> >
> > I have only done day hikes, but am considering hiking the PCT starting
> > next year, probably doing it in sections over the next 3 years. Is
> > there anyplace to find lists of necessary gear posted by experienced
> > hikers? I found one list in Georgia Swan's journal, but would like
> > more for comparision. I have talked to people in a couple of sporting
> > goods stores but of course they always want to sell maximum dollars in
> > top of the line stuff, rather than minimum weight adequate equipment.
> >
> >
> >
> > I hope to find a hiking partner among my outdoorsy friends as doing it
> > solo does not appeal to me for safety reasons.
> >
> >
> >
> > Info from experienced hikers would be most appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
> > Newhiker
> >
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:58:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matthew Schneider <salevale2000 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Final pre-trip blog entry
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:38:08 -0400
From: "Clifford McDonald" <clifmcdon at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Gear list2 foot su
To: "'Ron Cordell'" <ron.cordell at gmail.com>
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Okay:
Seems a bit small; I guess that 2 foot square isn't the same as 2 square
feet. Didn't expect a lesson in math from the PCT list server, but learn
something new every day.
The difference between 2 sq. ft. and 2 ft. square
"2 feet square" refers to a square that is 2 feet on a side, that is,
2 feet by 2 feet.
"2 square feet" is a measure of area. It can refer to any shape (a
rectangle 1 foot by 2 feet, for instance).
The area of a 2-foot square is 4 square feet (2 feet * 2 feet).
From: Ron Cordell [mailto:ron.cordell at gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 7:57 PM
To: Clifford McDonald
Cc: Ed Jarrett; dm at quixnet.net; PCT List
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Gear list
Can't speak for Ed, but I use Tyvek for my ground sheet. From his gear list
it appears he does the same.
-ronc
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Clifford McDonald <clifmcdon at comcast.net>
wrote:
Ed:
>From your gear list; what is the 2 foot square chunk of tyvek used for?
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From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
On Behalf Of Ed Jarrett
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 8:23 PM
To: dm at quixnet.net; PCT List
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Gear list
The link below is to my current gear list and is what I will be using
through the bulk of Oregon starting next week. It does use a hammock rather
than a tent/tarp, but otherwise may give you some ideas. The earlier
articles it reference describe my reasoning for the choices I made.
http://aclayjar.blogspot.com/2012/04/sample-gear-list.html
Ed Jarretthttp://aclayjar.blogspot.com/
> From: dm at quixnet.net
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 19:16:45 -0500
> Subject: [pct-l] Gear list
>
> I have only done day hikes, but am considering hiking the PCT starting
> next year, probably doing it in sections over the next 3 years. Is
> there anyplace to find lists of necessary gear posted by experienced
> hikers? I found one list in Georgia Swan's journal, but would like
> more for comparision. I have talked to people in a couple of sporting
> goods stores but of course they always want to sell maximum dollars in
> top of the line stuff, rather than minimum weight adequate equipment.
>
>
>
> I hope to find a hiking partner among my outdoorsy friends as doing it
> solo does not appeal to me for safety reasons.
>
>
>
> Info from experienced hikers would be most appreciated.
>
>
>
> Newhiker
>
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:41:53 -0700
From: Ed Jarrett <edjarrett at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] food storage strategy
To: <mashoys at gmail.com>, PCT List <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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If a bear can is not required I typically use an Ursack with an OPSac. If there is a bear wire I hang the bag, otherwise I tie it to a tree away from my hammock. Most of my hiking is in the Olympics, with a large black bear population. So far I have had no issues with them and my food. Only deer, who I caught pulling food out of a bear can that was only about 25 feet away, and chipmunks have bothered my food in nearly 30 years.
Ed Jarretthttp://aclayjar.blogspot.com/
> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 17:42:42 -0700
> From: mashoys at gmail.com
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: [pct-l] food storage strategy
>
> hello all,
>
> i'm attaining all of the gear i'll need for the pct and have come to food
> storage and need help. from what i've heard rodents are a frequent problem
> and bears a less frequent problem. i imagine hanging a food bag will be out
> of question for much of the desert, but where do most of you store your
> food at night? in the tent or in the trees? i'd love to bypass the extra
> chore if it's not a foolish idea, and i'm thinking of getting one of these
> if hanging food is more desirable... 4.7 oz. and 60 bucks... seems a bit
> spendy but not completely out of question:
>
> http://gossamergear.com/packs/bearister-food-hanging-system.html
>
> would love to hear your thoughts on it.
>
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