[pct-l] Fw: The "Lost" effect on the PCT community

Fri Jun 8 18:41:32 CDT 2012

Hi Jerry,

I'm not sure what you mean by "a good set down".  I try to have a good one every night. I usually take my layover days (hikers call them "0" days) at good locations near, but well off, and out of sight, of the PCT. Hiking by, you would never see me. I do not need shelters - that's what my tent is. I like to camp alone, with my horse, in a wild and natural place.

MendoRider-Hiker

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 From: Jerry Goller <geartester at comcast.net>
To: 'Edward Anderson' <mendoridered at yahoo.com> 
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2012 11:16 AM
Subject: RE: [pct-l] Fw:  The "Lost" effect on the PCT community

True. But there is a lot to be said for a good set down every so often.

Jerry

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From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
On Behalf Of Edward Anderson
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 18:48
To: Thomas Jamrog
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Fw: The "Lost" effect on the PCT community

I recall occasionally passing Ski shelters (a few) along the PCT. Not in
Wilderness areas, nor in National parks. I never stayed in one, although
some of the hikers did. I assume that those shelters might be infested by
rodents. I prefer to camp alone with my horse - usually, when possible, well
away from the trail. I like the solitude of wild places. I think it would be
a big mistake to put more shelters along the PCT. They would become
eyesores. They aren't needed.

MendoRider-Hiker 

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From: Thomas Jamrog <thomasjamrog at me.com>
To: Edward Anderson <mendoridered at yahoo.com>
Cc: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2012 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Fw:  The "Lost" effect on the PCT community

You don't need shelters on the PCT, with the exception of Washington, where
they would have been welcomed by several hikers  due to the wet cold
conditions one encounters there late in the hiking season. 
Uncle Tom

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On Jun 7, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Edward Anderson <mendoridered at yahoo.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> ----- Forwarded Message -----
> From: Dennis Phelan <dennis.phelan at gmail.com>
> To: Lindsey Sommer <lgsommer at gmail.com>
> Cc: "<pct-l at backcountry.net>" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2012 2:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] The "Lost" effect on the PCT community
> 
> I have been following some PCT hikers who are doing the AT this year 
> and while they are mostly free to camp where they want, they usually 
> choose to stay in the shelters because it is easier and dryer.   I 
> agree that having shelters on the PCT like they do on the AT would not be
desirable.
> 
> Dennis
> 
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Lindsey Sommer <lgsommer at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for the clarification! Nice there's some flexibility there. 
>> For some reason I was under the impression that was a general rule. 
>> And yeah, that doesn't seem like something PCT hikers wouldn't dig 
>> that system being implemented.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 7, 2012, at 1:42 PM, "Jim Banks" <jbanks4 at socal.rr.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On the AT you are only required to camp at shelters in a few 
>>> locations
>> such
>>> as Smokey Mountain National Park and a few other places.  Most of 
>>> the
>> time
>>> you can camp where you want.
>>> 
>>> I hope we never, ever have a "shelter system" on the PCT.  I think 
>>> most
>> PCT
>>> hikers would be opposed to shelters.
>>> 
>>> I-Beam
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:
>> pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
>>> On Behalf Of Lindsey Sommer
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 1:06 PM
>>> To: mkwart at gci.net
>>> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
>>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] The "Lost" effect on the PCT community
>>> 
>>> Oh wow, I didn't know about the movie thing, it's really taken off I
>> guess.
>>> 
>>> Something I've been thinking about for awhile is if, at any point, 
>>> we're going to see the PCT implement a shelter system similar to 
>>> what you see
>> on
>>> the AT. Personally, I really appreciate the more open-ended "find 
>>> your
>> own
>>> place to camp" aspect of the PCT, partially because I feel like its
>> really
>>> reflective of the west as a vast and more uninhibited wilderness 
>>> even
>> today.
>>> 
>>> I've always wondered when that point comes when the hiking 
>>> population
>> makes
>>> it no longer possible for everyone to stop where they want. It will 
>>> be interesting to see if the coming changes will effect the camping 
>>> system
>> at
>>> all.
>>> 
>>> (also, to be fair, I have been raised in norther california and 
>>> haven't gotten around to even planning an AT hike, but my 
>>> understanding is that
>> you
>>> are generally required to camp at shelter sites, please correct me 
>>> if I'm
>>> mistaken!)
>>> 
>>> Lindsey
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jun 7, 2012, at 12:37 PM, mkwart at gci.net wrote:
>>> 
>>>> One wrinkle in the equation that didn't happen with Bill Bryson's 
>>>> book on the AT, is that Cheryl Strayed's book may be made into a 
>>>> movie starring Reese Witherspoon. This could cause an extra spurt 
>>>> in interest and participation. One thing I hope is that the PCTA 
>>>> and other trail organizations recognize this and gear up for major 
>>>> educational pushes to correspond to the increase in interest. More 
>>>> people who know about the trail can mean more money for maintenance 
>>>> and acquisition of land to protect the trails. We're definitely not 
>>>> going to be in Kansas anymore........
>>>> 
>>>> --Fireweed
>>>> 
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