[pct-l] What Do Bicyclists Think?

[Timothy Nye]

Well, there's another lie.

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 1, 2012, at 7:20 PM, TrailLover at Tassociates.com wrote:

> Timothy,
> 
> I think you're somehow mistaken. Apparently, nothing has ever been removed from either the sharing FB site or the sharing web site unless it was obscene. And it's done by an automatic filter that has no regard for the content so your claim of bias cannot be correct. So unless you included some obscene language - or you posted to some completely unrelated site - all your posts should be visible. If not, perhaps you can repost them here and - if I haven't been banned     again by the PCT-L administrator - I will try to see to it that your comments are highlighted on either the sharing FB site and/or the sharing web site. Thanks.
> 
> TrailLover
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] What Do Bicyclists Think?
> From: Timothy Nye <timpnye at gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, November 01, 2012 4:17 pm
> To: Dan Jacobs <youroldpaldan at gmail.com>
> Cc: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> 
> 
> My posts to their site are routinely expunged. If you make a point or reach the opposite conclusion than the conclusions which they propose, then that is unacceptable. They will repost irresponsible and unsupported posts from PCT-L contributors such as purported death threats. At the same time, posts receptive to their message are retained. However, anything persuasive for which they have no apparent counter are deleted.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Nov 1, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Dan Jacobs <youroldpaldan at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > First, let me say that no individual or group has my permission to
> > copy in any fashion my writing in any form anywhere else but the PCT-L
> > email list. I expect this to be ignored, but there it is. If you want
> > to gain some respect, you can start with a goodwill gesture and
> > respect my wishes.
> > 
> > On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 12:07 PM, <TrailLover at tassociates.com> wrote:
> >> Because the PCT-L no longer serves as a forum for such a discussion, I'd like to encourage anyone to
> >> visit the either the Facebook page set up by some of the trail-sharing folks
> >> (https://www.facebook.com/SharingThePct) or their website (http://www.sharingthepct.org/). While
> >> both those sites are obviously oriented positively towards the prospect of potentially sharing parts
> >> of the PCT with cyclists, I think you can feel comfortable posting whatever respectful questions you
> >> may have and you should expect to receive respectful replies.
> > 
> > Expect respect, well, yes. Get it? That is another thing IME. Respect
> > would include, I imagine, not copying someone's words without their
> > permission. Would it hurt to even try? It seems so.
> > 
> > I'm not even talking about copyright. I'm talking about respect. I
> > respect the right of the MTBers to try to get access to trails that
> > are not open to them, they should respect me not yielding because I
> > don't have to. Follow the rules, we'll get along without any trouble.
> > Respect, if it was a two way street, would mean that one side wouldn't
> > use the other's words against them in any way, and respect their
> > experiences as they would like theirs respected.
> > 
> > Respect. How about respecting the intent of the framers and builders
> > of the PCT and just leave it as it is, a horse and hiker trail.
> > 
> > *Everyone* is welcome on the PCT. Just hike or horse it. Simple. No
> > fighting, arguing, attorneys, or otherwise.
> > 
> > Done.
> > 
> > Dan Jacobs
> > Washougal
> > -- 
> > "Loud motorcycle stereos save lives"
> > Motorcycle to hike, hike to motorcycle