[pct-l] NO BIKES SIGNS

[Andrea Dinsmore]

Foot traffic and horses could get over the natural obstacles but bikes
would have to dismount and carry the bikes over or around it. I also was
looking at some of the deep ruts in some photos and thought that hikers
could easily walk around the patches but the bikes over time would get hung
up the deeper they got. Folks also have commented that there were very few
collisions between hikers and bikers on the PCT. Could be that most bikers
understand it is illegal to ride the PCT. If it opens up to bikes there
will be more collisions.Both the hiker and the biker may be injured.  I
also think that all hikers should "hug the wall" instead of hanging on the
edge when being passed by a bike. Keep yourself as safe as possible.

PCT MOM

On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Ed Jarrett <edjarrett at msn.com> wrote:

>
> I think a simpler solution, already mentioned at least once, is just to
> leave trees that fall across the trail, so long as they are easy for a
> person or horse to step over.  The section of the trail just north of
> Crater Lake this year is one that I doubt any bike riders would want to
> traverse; even when the higher trees and branches were removed.
>
> Ed Jarretthttp://aclayjar.blogspot.com/
>
> > Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 10:37:14 -0400
> > From: aslive at charter.net
> > To: mendoridered at yahoo.com
> > CC: jhaskel at pcta.org; pct-l at backcountry.net; brick at brickrobbins.com;
> abiegen at cox.net; kmurray at pol.net
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] NO BIKES SIGNS
> >
> > We could erect barriers at the trailheads to keep bikes out.  This may
> > involve putting up some finceing along either side of the trail for some
> > distance.  These would need to be of such design so as to stop bikes and
> > yet allow horses through.  I don't know what that would look like.
> >
> > Shepherd
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Edward Anderson wrote:
> >
> > > I respectfully disagree. If they deface the sign, I will take a
> > > picture of that. If the signs, attached to the existing PCT posts,
> > > also state that there is a FINE for non-compliance many of them will
> > > be discouraged from ignoring the law. Do you have suggestions other
> > > than signs that might help to discourage them? If we do not become
> > > proactive they will win!  As you said, they are organized.
> > >
> > > MendoRider-Hiker
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >  From: Brick Robbins <brick at brickrobbins.com>
> > > To: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net> Sent: Monday,
> > > October 15, 2012 11:43 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [pct-l] CAMERA ENCOUNTER WITH 3 MB'S ON SECTION D
> > >   On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 6:49 AM, Edward Anderson
> > > <mendoridered at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> Something else that I would like to add is the need for SIGNS. <
> > >
> > > Recently on the TRT, the "No Bikes" sign on the Mt Rose Wilderness
> > > boundary had a large "MBLF" (Mountain Bike Liberation Front) graffiti
> > > on it. More signs just give the MTBers more opportunity to deface
> > > things. While most of them are good citizens, a LARGE minority are not
> > >
> > > Signs will not work and the MTB folks will not be satisfied until they
> > > own all the trails everywhere, including the PCT and Wilderness. They
> > > are organized, and savvy, and know how to work the system. This is NOT
> > > a short term fight.
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