[pct-l] ULA and Eric

[Austin Greavette]

>
> So, to bring it back around to the topic at hand - ULA put together a
> gratuitous joke at the expense of women.


How is that at the expense of women? This entire conversation
is ridiculous. They did not twist that poor girls arm to do it and for all
we know, the VP of Marketing could be a woman. When they sat down and
decided to film this, I seriously doubt they would felt they would be doing
it at the expense of women. Lord only knows.... Had it have been a man,
maybe this argument would be about how men get picked for everything.



> By doing that, they broadly imply
> that they think the vast majority of their customer base is male and that
> they don't take any female customers very seriously,


Eric - you need to re-read the stuff you write. Honestly? ULA doesn't take
females very seriously? Not only is that absurd, it's wasting my space in
my email box from people crying because a woman was used and it takes away
from out badassery???


>
> women are credible long-distance backpackers.


Again - wow. Thanks for the lesson. I think we all get that including ULA
who had recently invested some serious time in and energy towards better
straps for women.


>
> It's not about whether we saw certain body parts or not; it's about the
> disenfranchisement of women hikers.
>
> Explain please, because I think at this point you're just trying to jump
on a band wagon.



> So in summary, there's a huge fundamental difference between, say, coming
> across a nude swimmer at a hot spring and the video that ULA posted.  One
> is
> just normal life (yes, women have breasts, get over it) and the other is a
> cruel joke.
>

LMFAO - a cruel joke on a woman who did it? to all the women who had to see
it? How about all the women and men who clicked on it specifically knowing
what it was:? Maybe that is you disrespecting a woman?

If you don't like ULA for this video - DON"T buy their shit. But stop
crying...

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Ken Murray <kmurray at pol.net> wrote:

> Eric, that was a great post, and summarized my thinking perfectly.
>
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