[pct-l] Fwd: Fw: Titanium backpacker stoves

Bill Cathey b.cathey at yahoo.com
Sat Sep 22 23:04:12 CDT 2012


Thanks for the info, Ned. I was wondering as I have a liquid fuel stove, which doesn't have a control valve for simmering.

bill

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> From: "Ned Tibbits" <ned at mountaineducation.org>
> Date: September 22, 2012 3:30:34 PM EDT
> To: "Bill Cathey" <b.cathey at yahoo.com>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Fw:  Titanium backpacker stoves
> 
> When we teach our students how to melt snow without burning their pots, yes it is best to start out with a little water already in the pot. To do this, you can either have a little water at hand and dump it in when you start your stove or just put a little snow in (say a tablespoon) until it melts, then add more in small increments. The key is to realize that a full pot of snow will not necessarily melt at once.
> 
> Snow loves to absorb water. With a full pot on a raging stove, what usually happens is the bottom melts out and is absorbed into the snowpack above it. Now the bottom of the pot burns with no snow contact.
> 
> Start out with the stove at simmer or full-tilt, it doesn't really matter in reality. Put in a spoonful and watch it melt. Add two more and do the same. Add four. The more water present, the more snow you can add each time. Don't add so much each time that the snow added easily absorbs all the water present; make sure you have a slurry to heat up.
> 
> Before long you will have a pot full of water with bits of debris either floating or sitting on the bottom. Filter the water into your canteen and toss in more snow to melt, repeating the snow-melt process.
> 
> Don't get distracted! Just because the stove is running with plenty of snow in it doesn't mean that you can mill around in your tent doing something else. The chance that you'll knock over the stove accidently is huge. Stay with it, watch the melt rate, and stir occasionally--this will speed up the process and ensure that you will not be flooded or burned out while the storm rages outside.
> 
> Plan for the worst and enjoy the best!
> 
> 
> 
> Ned Tibbits, Director
> Mountain Education
> www.mountaineducation.org
> -----Original Message----- From: Bill Cathey
> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 9:44 AM
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Fw: Titanium backpacker stoves
> 
> I have no snow-camping experience, but am hoping to learn. Why is the stove that is good for boiling water not the best for melting snow? Is being able to simmer for some reason better for melting snow? I know you're supposed to make sure there's a little water in the pot before melting snow. Thanks.
> 
> bill
> 
> On Sep 21, 2012, at 9:35 PM, Edward Anderson <mendoridered at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> ----- Forwarded Message -----
>> From: Customer Service <customerservice at jetboil.com>
>> To: Edward Anderson <mendoridered at yahoo.com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 11:38 AM
>> Subject: RE: [pct-l] Titanium backpacker stoves
>> 
>> ... If you are only looking to boil water in the system and want a lightweight option then the Sol Titanium is a great model for that purpose, if you are looking to maybe cook noodles, beans or need to melt snow from time to time you would go with the Sol Aluminum model as it is more versatile in its options and is still lightweight.
>> 
>> Heather Fernandes
>> Office Manager
>> Jetboil Inc.



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