[pct-l] HIKEPLAN

Mon Jun 10 16:20:48 CDT 2013

Good for you "Base Commander Joan."  It is wonderful to have the support of
someone back home who both loves you and covers your back.  It sure makes a
difference.  Kept a smile on my face in some of the toughest of times.

When Why Not and I hiked the CDT last year, we both noticed a significant
decrease in our strength from our hikes of the PCT just a few years
earlier, 2009 and 2010 respectively.  Late 50s to early 60s and we felt it,
but we also met folks a lot older than us out there just lovin' what they
were doing.   I'd have to be pretty much incapacitated to ever entirely
give up hiking and backpacking as I've reveled in it since I was a kid, but
the mileage and distance per day are surely more difficult to achieve as
time goes by.  Come hell or high water, I plan to be out there like "Helen"
that marvelous, octogenarian, solo, hiking the Oregon section.  She was a
real inspiration and I keep a picture of her in my head, of what it can
look like at 80 on the trail.  Not bad at all.  Then there was the other
"Helen," Helen Thayer who I met at the Dinsmore's in 2011.  She was 73 and
her husband Bob was 85, and they had just returned from a 900 mile trek
across the Sahara.  Add that to solo and together treks to the North Pole,
being the first people to hike across the Gobi and much more.  All of that
done after she turned 50 and he was in his 60s.  Bob walked like a young
man when I met him and they both regularly trained in the Cascades, trying
to best their times on the same trails.  So far they'd been able to.
 Incredible!  Two of the sweetest folks you'd ever want to meet.  The
Dinsmores hang with some incredible people!

Good for you supporting him.  Here's to geezers on trail!

Shroomer

On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, <bluetrail at aol.com> wrote:

>
> He's retired Army SF, and I think his ingrained mindset is that this is a
> military mission.  He's definitely hiking his own hike already:  he just
> has pretty stringent standards for himself.  He's not comparing his hike
> against others, but rather against the schedule he devised so that he can
> make it to Manning Park by very early October. Thus far he's taken no
> zeros.  He's saving those in hopes of taking about 3 days off to see a
> couple of baseball games in San Francisco.  A hiking friend will pick him
> up and deliver him back to the trail. (He's also trying to see a ball game
> at every major league field and lacks only three fields on the west coast.)
>
> He so wants to finish in one go this time.  In 1997, he took two mid-hike
> weeks off of his PCT hike to play tourist in California with my son and me.
>  He was within two weeks of finishing when the weather finally beat him in
> Washington (early year for bad weather).  He flew home with something more
> than 100 miles to go.  Most who finished that year road walked the last two
> weeks.  He went back in 1998 and completed the thru on the trail.
>
> And I do tell him I'm proud of him.
>
> Joan, Base Commander
> Hiker Logistics Supply Command Headquarters (HLSC HQ)
> Oviedo, Florida
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ernie Castillo <erniec01 at hotmail.com>
> To: bluetrail <bluetrail at aol.com>
> Sent: Mon, Jun 10, 2013 3:30 pm
> Subject: RE: [pct-l] HIKEPLAN
>
>
>
> There is nothing wrong with backpacking 20 miles a day.
> Wrong is thinking that's not good, especially for somebody who is 68.
> Tell your hiker you are proud of him and to not worry about the mileage.
> Tell your hiker to hike his own hike.
>
>
> Ernie Castillo
> ErnieC01 at Outlook.com
> home: 248 620 5283
> cell: 248 884 5201
>
>
>
> > To: baidarker at gmail.com; tsparks56 at aol.com
> > From: bluetrail at aol.com
> > Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 10:47:49 -0400
> > CC: pct-l at backcountry.net; rowriver at gmail.com; hikeplan at aol.com
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] HIKEPLAN
> >
> >
> > For what it's worth, "my" hiker, who'll turn 68 on this hike, is finding
> the mileage a lot harder to come by than when he last did the PCT 16 years
> ago. Whenever I ask how he is, the reply is "tired." And this is a guy who
> both hikes, bikes, and does trail work at least 5-6 days a week all year
> round. One difference may be that all this regular work is in flat Florida.
> He's pushing himself to make low 20's.
> >
> > He made it to Kennedy Meadows last night. He beat/avoided the fire and
> didn't skip to get around it.
> >
> > What's the support person doing? Last weekend was devoted to making and
> dehydrating two slaws (a surprise for him) and making beef jerky. Most of
> this past Sunday was spent making and packaging "billy groats," a breakfast
> mix made from a recipe he got from Billy Goat.
> >
> > Joan
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Williams <baidarker at gmail.com>
> > To: Terry <tsparks56 at aol.com>
> > Cc: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>; Stephen Clark <rowriver at gmail.com>;
> hikeplan <hikeplan at aol.com>
> > Sent: Sun, Jun 9, 2013 5:48 pm
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] HIKEPLAN
> >
> >
> > I read it the same way as Terry, as a tongue in cheek way of cheering you
> > on. Knowing Dicentra just a bit, I'd say it was humor and not a cut at
> > all. Hell, as a geezer who hikes, I just do what I can do and it usually
> > surprises me that I can keep up with so many much younger folks. Then
> > again, maybe they just slow down a bit so they can hear the "history on
> the
> > hoof" as we hike along. It pays to have had a lot of crazy experiences
> > over the years. Kids love to hear 'em. Or, maybe they're just polite
> > kids. Hell, it doesn't matter. Just hike on at your own pace.
> >
> > Shroomer
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Terry <tsparks56 at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Snake Charmer,
> > > I really don't think Dicentra was trying to call you out about being
> able
> > > to complete the PCT, or not. How I read her post, is as a positive "you
> > > can do this and don't give up" type of an encouragement for you and,
> all of
> > > us in general.
> > > Regardless of doing the entire trail in one shot, or not, I think
> > > Dicentra's heart and thoughts are in the right place.
> > >
> > > Terry
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Stephen Clark <rowriver at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dicentra,
> > > > A bit harsh!
> > > > As we age each individual has differing degrees of ability and
> disability
> > > > and it is paramount that we know our limits.
> > > > I realize that, at your age, it is difficult to comprehend slowing
> down
> > > or
> > > > possibly not even being able to hike anymore but it happens.
> > > > I am not able to do what I did at age 40 but I know my limits. We are
> > > > products of our genetics and not all of us are "Billy Goat."
> > > > I hope you will save this thread and read it again in 25 or 30 years
> when
> > > > you reach our age. Only then will you realize how insensitive your
> "*I
> > > call
> > > > BS*" comment truly is.
> > > > Snake Charmer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 11:01 AM, dicentra <dicentragirl at yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> "too old to complete the PCT"??
> > > >>
> > > >> I call BS. Billy Goat is in his 70's and he's still out there every
> > > year.
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm going to refrain from commenting on the rest of your post.
> > > >>
> > > >> ~Dicentra
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> http://www.onepanwonders.com ~ Backcountry Cooking at its Finest
> > > >> http://www.freewebs.com/dicentra
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --- On Thu, 6/6/13, hikeplan at aol.com <hikeplan at aol.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> From: hikeplan at aol.com <hikeplan at aol.com>
> > > >> Subject: [pct-l] HIKEPLAN
> > > >> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> > > >> Date: Thursday, June 6, 2013, 10:54 PM
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi PCT hikers! I am accepting applications for HIKEPLAN
> construction.
> > > It is
> > > >> my hobby wherein I have created over 700 plans for through- and
> section-
> > > >> hikes. Since I am too old to complete the PCT, I enjoy helping
> others
> > > do
> > > >> it
> > > >> for me. There is no charge. If interested, please contact me at:
> > > >> _hikeplan at aol.com_ (mailto:hikeplan at aol.com) for questionnaires to
> > > >> complete and
> > > >> return. Initially, I only need your entry and exit points so I can
> > > >> reference
> > > >> the proper PCT Guidebooks and Halfmile maps. Good hikes to all! Jack
> > > >> Yates
> > > >>
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