[pct-l] Side trips

[Josie]

Thanks for all your comments---I just re-read my journal entry for that day and realized it was not from Mt Thielsen that i had this view. I would still recommend the side trip-- the last 80 feet or so (and no, I ‘m not certain that number is correct!) is steep, requiring hand and foot-holds in places, but once you get to the top, it’s quite thrilling to stand there on a fairly small patch of land. It may only be 9,000+ feet but the view is spectacular.

The place I looked north along the line of Cascades was from South Sister, another side trip well worth the views.  The beauty of the Cascades is that for the most part they stand alone in a magnificent line that defines the journey--you are always looking ahead to the next mountain rising like a beacon ahead to mark your way and at your back is the mountain you left behind.

Jo


On Mar 25, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Jerry King wrote:

> Mt Adams & Mt Thielsen are 212.6 miles apart. Both Mt Jefferson and Mt Hood lie with 1 mile of the line of sight.
> I know of no mountains in the lower 48 that are intervisible over 200 miles.
> Mt Kenya (17,057′) is visible from Mt Kilimanjaro (19,365′) on a good day.  The two peaks are 214 miles apart and generally are agree to be the most highly separated points on earth that are visible one from the other (assuming clear weather).
>  
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> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Diarmaid Harmon <irishharmon at comcast.net> wrote:
> Mt Thielsen elevation is 9,184'.
> 
> Mt Adams elevation is 12,281'.
> 
> Giving the 3000 foot difference and adding it in to the equation you still fall short. I also believe your view of Adams were it possible would be blocked by several other mountains in the Cascades.
> 
> 
> Examples, assuming no refraction:
> For an observer on the ground with eye level at h = 5 ft 7 in (5.583 ft), the horizon is at a distance of 2.9 miles (4.7 km).
> For an observer standing on a hill or tower 100 feet (30 m) in height, the horizon is at a distance of 12.2 miles (19.6 km).
> For an observer on the summit of Aconcagua (22,841 feet (6,962 m) in height), the sea-level horizon to the west is at a distance of 184 miles (296 km).
> 
> Diarmaid "Irish" Harmon
> irishharmon at comcast.net
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> "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, Guinness in one hand, steak in the other, yell 'Holy Sh**, What a Ride!"
> 
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> On Mar 25, 2013, at 3:26 PM, patrick griffith wrote:
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> >
> > You could see Mt Adams from Mt Thielsen, a linear distance of over 200miles? hmmm....
> >> From: josie1066 at gmail.com
> >> Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 22:03:32 -0700
> >> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> >> Subject: [pct-l] Side trips
> >>
> >>> From Mt thielsen I could see Mt. Shasta to the south in California  and mt. Adams to the north in Washington-- all the western states-- I was fortunate to have a clear day. It was probably the scariest climb I ever made. The guide book said " non technical climb" -- I should have paid more attention to the "climb" and less to the "non-technical" -- worth it? Absolutely!
> >> Jo
> >> ( more on this adventure at http://postholer.com/journal/viewJournal.php?sid=ce2b9ea2f9f4a19507275d55d422c918&entry_id=688)
> >> South sister is a non-technical walk-up (albeit a cinder slog). The access trailhead is on the south side, an easy detour east from the PCT. Both North and Middle sister are true technical climbs due to rotten rock. You can forget those. Mt. Thielsen, just north of Crater Lake, has a PCT junction with its climbing trail. All but the last few meters are reportedly accessible without climbing gear. It is worth noting that Mt Thielsen is called "the lightening rod of the Cascades" for a very good reason. Watch the weather and be ready to retreat if skies darken. None of the other Cascade volcanoes are climbable (summitable) without technical gear. In the Goat Rocks Wilderness of WA, you have the option to take the old PCT high trail that goes up and over Old Snowy rather than the current PCT across the Packwood Glacier. The junction is shortly before you reach what's left of the old Yelverton Shelter on the PCT.
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