[pct-l] Pct-L Digest, Vol 62, Issue 18
PCT
shawonpct at msn.com
Thu May 2 10:32:00 CDT 2013
If you are planning on hiking the AT, then you really don't need any maps.
Last year I saw a few folks with maps, but most of us just followed the
blazes. The AT has challenges, but navigation isn't one of them.
The maps I did see were the fold up variety and I think they would be very
expensive to buy a set that covered the whole trail. They were nice maps
that gave a good situational awareness of the big picture of where you were,
but of little use for navigation since the blazes are just so prevalent.
Peanut Eater
-----Original Message-----
From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
On Behalf Of Phil Reimer
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 3:21 AM
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Pct-L Digest, Vol 62, Issue 18
AT maps similar to Half Mile's PCT maps:
I'm looking for some maps for the Appalacian Trail that are as nice as the
Half Mile maps I used on the PCT. Anyone have suggestions? Thanks, Phil
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> 1. Re: Cash on hand (Jim & Jane Moody)
> 2. Re: Food in tents (C)
> 3. Re: Food in tents (Ed Jarrett)
> 4. Re: Food in tents (Jim Banks)
> 5. Re: Food in tents (Edward Anderson)
> 6. Re: Food in tents (C)
> 7. Re: Food in tents (C)
> 8. Re: Food in tents (Dan Jacobs)
> 9. Re: Forest Service rejects efforts to rescind or restrict ban
> on mountain bikes on PCT! (abiegen at cox.net)
> 10. Re: Food in tents (C)
> 11. Re: Section Hiking The PCT (Bob Bankhead)
> 12. Re: Section Hiking The PCT (Cat Nelson)
> 13. Re: Food in tents (Jim Banks)
> 14. Re: Knives (Bob Turner)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 13:50:34 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Jim & Jane Moody <moodyjj at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Cash on hand
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Scott,
>
> I tried to carry about $50 to $100 cash, with some of it in one s &
> five s for help with gas and shuttles.? I had my wife include some
> cash in each resupply box to avoid cash advance / ATM fees in town.
>
>
>
> I never had a problem using a credit card in towns, but make sure you
> have a picture id with you.? Often I was asked to show the i.d. to
> prove it was my credit card - which I appreciated, because it was MY
> credit card being protected.
>
>
>
> If you run short of cash at a Trail Angel's house, there are other
> ways to help.? I was almost ou t of cash at Casa de Luna, so I bought
> a bunch of stuff for the Anderson's trail magic site at the local
> store, using my credit card - beer, cokes, etc.
>
>
>
> ALWAYS make sure you donate to the Trail Angels, and always show
> respect to their homes.
>
>
>
> Good luck,
>
> Mango
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> From: "Scott Sullivan" <sullivanaz at gmail.com>
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2013 6:19:59 PM
> Subject: [pct-l] Cash on hand
>
> So how much cash should a thur take for trial angel donations? Is
> there any issue with debit/credit cards in stores ?in trail
> town/stops?
>
> Scott
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 06:44:30 -0800
> From: C <chrisfoley81 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Food in tents
> To: Eric Lee <saintgimp at hotmail.com>
> Cc: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>,
> "<pct-l at backcountry.net>" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Good morning
> I was thinking of bringing some can food like tuna fish etc and eating
> them only by streams so I can rinse them out good...I would than poke
> a hole in the can and use my para like a trout stringer but for
> cans...keep them on the outside of my pack....
> Until I reach a town to toss...
> This is my first thru hike or really camping so just wanna try and get
> on the same page with the more experienced...
> Appreciate all your advice and knowledge!!!
> -c
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 9, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Eric Lee <saintgimp at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Piper wrote:
> >>
> > The creature to startle me the most was a deer. Those things are
> > loud and clumsy and can startle the crap out of you.
> >>
> >
> > The worst thing about deer is running across them when night hiking.
> Their
> > green-glowing eyes summon up all the horror movies you've ever seen . .
.
> > then after almost messing your pants you realize, "Oh, it's just a
deer."
> > Good times, good times.
> >
> > Eric
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 07:06:50 -0800
> From: Ed Jarrett <edjarrett at msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Food in tents
> To: PCT List <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Tuna is available in foil packets. These are lighter, easier to open,
> and easier to add to your trash bag. They come in 3.5 and 7oz sizes
> and a variety of types of tuna.
>
> Ed Jarretthttp://aclayjar.blogspot.com/
>
> > Good morning
> > I was thinking of bringing some can food like tuna fish etc and
> > eating
> them only by streams so I can rinse them out good...I would than poke
> a hole in the can and use my para like a trout stringer but for
> cans...keep them on the outside of my pack....
> > Until I reach a town to toss...
> > This is my first thru hike or really camping so just wanna try and
> > get
> on the same page with the more experienced...
> > Appreciate all your advice and knowledge!!!
> > -c
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 07:19:19 -0800
> From: "Jim Banks" <jbanks4 at socal.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Food in tents
> To: "'C'" <chrisfoley81 at gmail.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> You should be thinking about weight whenever you are considering what
> you are going to carry. Tuna fish in a foil packet would be much
> better than in a can. I hope you did not mean that you were going to
> rinse the cans out in the stream. Never wash your dishes or rinse
> things out directly in a stream. Carry the water at least 100 feet
> away from the stream to do your washing, remember that stream is where
> the next hiker is going to get his/her drinking water.
>
> I-Beam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net
> [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of C
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 6:44 AM
> To: Eric Lee
> Cc: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes; <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Food in tents
>
> Good morning
> I was thinking of bringing some can food like tuna fish etc and eating
> them only by streams so I can rinse them out good...I would than poke
> a hole in the can and use my para like a trout stringer but for
> cans...keep them on the outside of my pack....
> Until I reach a town to toss...
> This is my first thru hike or really camping so just wanna try and get
> on the same page with the more experienced...
> Appreciate all your advice and knowledge!!!
> -c
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 9, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Eric Lee <saintgimp at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Piper wrote:
> >>
> > The creature to startle me the most was a deer. Those things are
> > loud and clumsy and can startle the crap out of you.
> >>
> >
> > The worst thing about deer is running across them when night hiking.
> Their
> > green-glowing eyes summon up all the horror movies you've ever seen . .
.
> > then after almost messing your pants you realize, "Oh, it's just a
deer."
> > Good times, good times.
> >
> > Eric
> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 07:22:43 -0800 (PST)
> From: Edward Anderson <mendoridered at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Food in tents
> To: C <chrisfoley81 at gmail.com>, "pct-l at backcountry.net"
> <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> You need to put stuff like that in an?odor-proof sack, along with TP.
> Bears have an awesome sense of smell. Rinsing well won't be enough if
> bears are your concern.
> ?
> MendoRider-Hiker
>
> ?
>
> ________________________________
> From: C <chrisfoley81 at gmail.com>
> To: Eric Lee <saintgimp at hotmail.com>
> Cc: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>;
> "< pct-l at backcountry.net>" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 6:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Food in tents
>
> Good morning
> I was thinking of bringing some can food like tuna fish etc and eating
> them only by streams so I can rinse them out good...I would than poke
> a hole in the can and use my para like a? trout stringer but for
> cans...keep them on the outside of my pack....
> Until I reach a town to toss...
> This is my first thru hike or really camping so just wanna try and get
> on the same page with the more experienced...
> Appreciate all your advice and knowledge!!!
> -c
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 9, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Eric Lee <saintgimp at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Piper wrote:
> >>
> > The creature to startle me the most was a deer. Those things are
> > loud and clumsy and can startle the crap out of you.
> >>
> >
> > The worst thing about deer is running across them when night hiking.?
> Their
> > green-glowing eyes summon up all the horror movies you've ever seen . .
.
> > then after almost messing your pants you realize, "Oh, it's just a
deer."
> > Good times, good times.
> >
> > Eric
> >
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 07:24:10 -0800
> From: C <chrisfoley81 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Food in tents
> To: Jim Banks <jbanks4 at socal.rr.com>
> Cc: "<pct-l at backcountry.net>" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <4BAB84BC-FFCA-40BB-9529-2EC0A8307030 at gmail.com>
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> I didn't know that thank you...only because of lack of knowledge was I
> going to do that but I'm glad you said something. Thanks!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 10, 2013, at 7:19 AM, "Jim Banks" <jbanks4 at socal.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > You should be thinking about weight whenever you are considering
> > what you are going to carry. Tuna fish in a foil packet would be
> > much better
> than in
> > a can. I hope you did not mean that you were going to rinse the
> > cans
> out in
> > the stream. Never wash your dishes or rinse things out directly in
> > a stream. Carry the water at least 100 feet away from the stream to
> > do
> your
> > washing, remember that stream is where the next hiker is going to
> > get his/her drinking water.
> >
> > I-Beam
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:
> pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> > On Behalf Of C
> > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 6:44 AM
> > To: Eric Lee
> > Cc: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes; <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] Food in tents
> >
> > Good morning
> > I was thinking of bringing some can food like tuna fish etc and
> > eating
> them
> > only by streams so I can rinse them out good...I would than poke a
> > hole
> in
> > the can and use my para like a trout stringer but for cans...keep
> > them
> on
> > the outside of my pack....
> > Until I reach a town to toss...
> > This is my first thru hike or really camping so just wanna try and
> > get on the same page with the more experienced...
> > Appreciate all your advice and knowledge!!!
> > -c
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Feb 9, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Eric Lee <saintgimp at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Piper wrote:
> >>>
> >> The creature to startle me the most was a deer. Those things are
> >> loud
> and
> >> clumsy and can startle the crap out of you.
> >>>
> >>
> >> The worst thing about deer is running across them when night hiking.
> > Their
> >> green-glowing eyes summon up all the horror movies you've ever seen . .
> .
> >> then after almost messing your pants you realize, "Oh, it's just a
> deer."
> >> Good times, good times.
> >>
> >> Eric
> >>
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 07:26:26 -0800
> From: C <chrisfoley81 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Food in tents
> To: Edward Anderson <mendoridered at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <FEEC5E66-023A-4E8B-AC77-C31C96C29432 at gmail.com>
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> Bears make me shake...yes I would consider them a concern.. :)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 10, 2013, at 7:22 AM, Edward Anderson <mendoridered at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > You need to put stuff like that in an odor-proof sack, along with TP.
> Bears have an awesome sense of smell. Rinsing well won't be enough if
> bears are your concern.
> >
> > MendoRider-Hiker
> >
> >
> > From: C <chrisfoley81 at gmail.com>
> > To: Eric Lee <saintgimp at hotmail.com>
> > Cc: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes
> > <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>; "<
> pct-l at backcountry.net>" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 6:44 AM
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] Food in tents
> >
> > Good morning
> > I was thinking of bringing some can food like tuna fish etc and
> > eating
> them only by streams so I can rinse them out good...I would than poke
> a hole in the can and use my para like a trout stringer but for
> cans...keep them on the outside of my pack....
> > Until I reach a town to toss...
> > This is my first thru hike or really camping so just wanna try and
> > get
> on the same page with the more experienced...
> > Appreciate all your advice and knowledge!!!
> > -c
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Feb 9, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Eric Lee <saintgimp at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Piper wrote:
> > >>
> > > The creature to startle me the most was a deer. Those things are
> > > loud
> and
> > > clumsy and can startle the crap out of you.
> > >>
> > >
> > > The worst thing about deer is running across them when night hiking.
> Their
> > > green-glowing eyes summon up all the horror movies you've ever seen .
> . .
> > > then after almost messing your pants you realize, "Oh, it's just a
> deer."
> > > Good times, good times.
> > >
> > > Eric
> > >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 07:43:39 -0800
> From: Dan Jacobs <youroldpaldan at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Food in tents
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 7:06 AM, Ed Jarrett <edjarrett at msn.com> wrote:
> > Tuna is available in foil packets. These are lighter, easier to
> > open,
> and easier to add to your trash bag. They come in 3.5 and 7oz sizes
> and a variety of types of tuna.
> >
> > Ed Jarretthttp://aclayjar.blogspot.com/
>
> And having grown up in the tuna fishing industry, I can tell you that,
> based on my experience, you can *not* completely remove the odor of
> the tuna from its can. You'll be ringing the bear dinner bell loud and
> clear by hanging them on the back of your pack. ;-)
>
> Dan Jacobs
> Washougal
> --
> "Loud motorcycle stereos save lives."
> Motorcycle to hike, hike to motorcycle.
> A student of philosophy, eager to display his powers of argument,
> approached Diogenes, introduced himself and said, "If it pleases you,
> sir, let me prove to you that there is no such thing as motion."
> Whereupon Diogenes immediately got up and left.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 10:46:16 -0500
> From: <abiegen at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Forest Service rejects efforts to rescind or
> restrict ban on mountain bikes on PCT!
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <20130210154616.BFQOU.175352.imail at fed1rmwml301>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Zorglub wrote
>
> >I would expect to see a lot more cyclists this summer on the PCT now
> >that
> we all know the questionable legality of the closure order.
> ...
> >A bunch of annoying stuff
> ...
> >The bigger question is whether the USFS will enforce the ban now that
> cyclists know that they can challenge any citation in court.
>
> For those of you who were lucky enough to miss the Mountain Biker
> Blowout on the list last year you may not know that Zorglub is a
> mountain biker who wants to ride on parts of the PCT. He is not, never
> was and never will be a PCT hiker. Brink lets him be the one MBer to
> post here if he behaves himself. I would say advocating illegal riding
> of the PCT is pushing it maybe a little too far.
>
> Yes, the MBers can fight any citation in court, just as you can fight
> that speeding ticket. Good luck with that. The Forest Service will
> enforce the law if they get enough information from people reporting
> and documenting with pictures of what they see. With the FS budget
> stretched to the limit just imagine what good work they can do with all
those $5,000 fines!
>
> I don't want to clog up the list with these annoyances when it is time
> to start getting excited about the upcoming hiking season, so this
> will be my last post on this subject. Enjoy your hike, don't let
> anyone ruin it for you.
>
> TrailHacker
> --
> "When my feet hurt, I can't think straight"
> Abraham Lincoln
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 07:51:31 -0800
> From: C <chrisfoley81 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Food in tents
> To: Dan Jacobs <youroldpaldan at gmail.com>
> Cc: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <63D4F8C0-1545-4C35-8502-FF842C778497 at gmail.com>
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>
> Thank you I was wondering because although I love you all very
> much....I do not want to be the human bear charm out there on the PCT
> this year :)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 10, 2013, at 7:43 AM, Dan Jacobs <youroldpaldan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 7:06 AM, Ed Jarrett <edjarrett at msn.com> wrote:
> >> Tuna is available in foil packets. These are lighter, easier to
> >> open,
> and easier to add to your trash bag. They come in 3.5 and 7oz sizes
> and a variety of types of tuna.
> >>
> >> Ed Jarretthttp://aclayjar.blogspot.com/
> >
> > And having grown up in the tuna fishing industry, I can tell you
> > that, based on my experience, you can *not* completely remove the
> > odor of the tuna from its can. You'll be ringing the bear dinner
> > bell loud and clear by hanging them on the back of your pack. ;-)
> >
> > Dan Jacobs
> > Washougal
> > --
> > "Loud motorcycle stereos save lives."
> > Motorcycle to hike, hike to motorcycle.
> > A student of philosophy, eager to display his powers of argument,
> > approached Diogenes, introduced himself and said, "If it pleases
> > you, sir, let me prove to you that there is no such thing as motion."
> > Whereupon Diogenes immediately got up and left.
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 07:52:20 -0800
> From: "Bob Bankhead" <wandering_bob at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Section Hiking The PCT
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Since you only have 7 days available, your first consideration should
> be the distance from home you must travel to reach any given trailhead
> and the amount of time required for a round trip. That tells you how
> many on-trail days you have available. Naturally, the farther from
> your home, the more time it will take. In all practicality, you're
> probably looking at 5 days.
>
> Once you know that, determine the rate (how many miles per hour) at
> which you can reasonably expect to hike, given your personal stamina
> and physical condition. Distance = rate x time. You can hike faster
> for a shorter time or slower for a longer time and cover the same
> distance; your choice. If in doubt, use 1.5 mph. There's plenty of
> light in May and June, so figure on an absolute maximum of 12 hours of
> actual on-trail hiking time, although 10 is more reasonable. This does
> not include any breaks taken for any reason. Now you know how far you
> can reasonably expect to go in a day; in this scenario, between 15 and
> 18. IMO, that's a lot for someone just starting out; 10 to
> 12
> is more common, but any elevation change you encounter factors into this.
> Thru-hikers - once the trail has whipped them into shape - can
> routinely average 20+ (Sierra excepted). A few hearty (young, healthy)
> trail gorilla types can pound out 30+. ?bermenchen can hit 50+ on
> occasion, but not continuously.
>
> Number of trail days times maximum number of miles per day equals the
> maximum section length you can do. Match that to the published section
> lengths in the guidebook. Taking weather and snow conditions into
> account, choose one and go.
>
> Oregon pretty much breaks up into 50 mile sections between resupply
> points, especially south of Santiam Pass, but you'll have a lot of
> snow-covered trail in May and June. Southern CA may be your best bet for
May and June.
>
> Now if you could wait until August, every section will be available.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net
> [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Daniel Hurt
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 8:36 PM
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: [pct-l] Section Hiking The PCT
>
> Having two small boys and a limited income and time it wont be
> possible for me to through hike the PCT. I was wandering if anyone
> might be able to give me advice on how to select locations to start a
> section hike depending on the time of year. I will only have about a
> week to hike and I am not sure when I will even? be able to go. I am
> thinking May or June but have no specific time. Any advice would be
appreciated.
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 08:46:54 -0800
> From: Cat Nelson <sagegirl51 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Section Hiking The PCT
> To: Daniel Hurt <danielhurt at ymail.com>
> Cc: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
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> You didn't say where your at or if you are a single parent, the PCT is
> 45 minutes from my place. The kids (age 3&6) that I nanny, have day hiked
with
> me. It nice to day hike and still get paid. Being a nanny, I'm low
income
> too.
> On Feb 10, 2013 3:15 AM, "Daniel Hurt" <danielhurt at ymail.com> wrote:
>
> > Having two small boys and a limited income and time it wont be
> > possible for me to through hike the PCT. I was wandering if anyone
> > might be able
> to
> > give me advice on how to select locations to start a section hike
> depending
> > on the time of year. I will only have about a week to hike and I am
> > not sure when I will even be able to go. I am thinking May or June
> > but have
> no
> > specific time. Any advice would be appreciated.
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> Message: 13
> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 09:04:03 -0800
> From: "Jim Banks" <jbanks4 at socal.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Food in tents
> To: "'C'" <chrisfoley81 at gmail.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Check out the leave no trace website for information on what you
> should and shouldn't do. The website is
> www.lnt.org/learn/7-principles
>
> I was wrong about the 100 feet, it is actually 200 feet.
>
> I-Beam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C [mailto:chrisfoley81 at gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:24 AM
> To: Jim Banks
> Cc: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Food in tents
>
> I didn't know that thank you...only because of lack of knowledge was I
> going to do that but I'm glad you said something. Thanks!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 10, 2013, at 7:19 AM, "Jim Banks" <jbanks4 at socal.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > You should be thinking about weight whenever you are considering
> > what you are going to carry. Tuna fish in a foil packet would be
> > much better than in a can. I hope you did not mean that you were
> > going to rinse the cans out in the stream. Never wash your dishes
> > or rinse things out directly in a stream. Carry the water at least
> > 100 feet away from the stream to do your washing, remember that
> > stream is where the next hiker is going to get his/her drinking water.
> >
> > I-Beam
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net
> > [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> > On Behalf Of C
> > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 6:44 AM
> > To: Eric Lee
> > Cc: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes; <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] Food in tents
> >
> > Good morning
> > I was thinking of bringing some can food like tuna fish etc and
> > eating them only by streams so I can rinse them out good...I would
> > than poke a hole in the can and use my para like a trout stringer
> > but for cans...keep them on the outside of my pack....
> > Until I reach a town to toss...
> > This is my first thru hike or really camping so just wanna try and
> > get on the same page with the more experienced...
> > Appreciate all your advice and knowledge!!!
> > -c
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Feb 9, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Eric Lee <saintgimp at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Piper wrote:
> >>>
> >> The creature to startle me the most was a deer. Those things are
> >> loud and clumsy and can startle the crap out of you.
> >>>
> >>
> >> The worst thing about deer is running across them when night hiking.
> > Their
> >> green-glowing eyes summon up all the horror movies you've ever seen . .
> .
> >> then after almost messing your pants you realize, "Oh, it's just a
> deer."
> >> Good times, good times.
> >>
> >> Eric
> >>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 09:20:18 -0800
> From: "Bob Turner" <hkrbob at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Knives
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> For the past 15 + years I have only carried the little Victorinox Classic.
> weighs less than an ounce (21g) has short blade adequet for slicing
> cheese, salami, etc, and nice scissors that trim toe and finger nais very
nicely.
>
> Beaker
>
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