[pct-l] 80 TICKETS ISSUED TO ILLEGAL TRAIL USERS

Edward Anderson mendoridered at yahoo.com
Thu May 16 16:25:01 CDT 2013


WE NEED A SARGENT OLFERT.  Please read these posts.

MendoRider


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From: Tamara Robinson <trailrite at aol.com>
To: Edward Anderson <mendoridered at yahoo.com> 
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:30 AM
Subject: Fwd: [pct-l] C-A-M-P-F-I-R-E-S / And the Mountain Bike problem
 


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Tammy  Robinson
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From: "Stolarik, Sherrie" <Sherrie.Stolarik at ladwp.com>
>Date: May 16, 2013, 6:53:34 AM PDT
>To: Tamara Robinson <trailrite at aol.com>
>Subject: RE: [pct-l] C-A-M-P-F-I-R-E-S / And the Mountain Bike problem
>
>
 
>Yes, that is what we did for your area….Olfert issued 80 tickets. 
>They also are patrolling our open space…we had pocket bikes,
>An ATV and a gator….now we have a step over gate and no more
>Issues but they can still come in from the other side. ..but so far
>Nothing…then Olfert went over to Castaic and also to San Francisquito
>Cyn.  Unless reported, law enforcement does not know…that is why
>We have an OHV Task Force…I also call when they ride down the streets
>With illegal cycles!! 
> 
> 
>From:Tamara Robinson [mailto:trailrite at aol.com] 
>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:48 PM
>To: Stolarik, Sherrie
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] C-A-M-P-F-I-R-E-S / And the Mountain Bike problem
> 
>Good question.  I don't think they are doing much as far as reporting it to some local enforcements.  
>
>Tammy  Robinson
>Trail-Rite  Products
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On May 15, 2013, at 6:35 AM, "Stolarik, Sherrie" <Sherrie.Stolarik at ladwp.com> wrote:
>Basically the OHV Task Force in our area, (Sgt Olfert) would be contacted
>>To patrol and issue tickets…they need to contact the Sheriff’s EVERY TIME
>>And get a task force out there…did they????? 
>> 
>>From:Trailrite at aol.com [mailto:Trailrite at aol.com] 
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:32 PM
>>To: Stolarik, Sherrie
>>Subject: Fwd: Fw: [pct-l] C-A-M-P-F-I-R-E-S / And the Mountain Bike problem
>> 
>>Some of the stuff I get from my PCT Friends....
>> 
>>Tammy Robinson (owner)
>>Trail-Rite Products
>>18171 Lost Creek Road
>>Saugus, CA 91390
>>661/513-9269 office/ranch
>>661/713-3912 cell
>>661/513-9208 fax
>>http://www.trail-rite.com/
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>>>________________________________
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>>>From: mendoridered at yahoo.com
>>>To: trailrite at aol.com
>>>Sent: 5/14/2013 2:28:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time
>>>Subj: Fw: [pct-l] C-A-M-P-F-I-R-E-S / And the Mountain Bike problem
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>>>From:Edward Anderson <mendoridered at yahoo.com>
>>>To: Craig Giffen <cg at lunky.com>; "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net> 
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 1:45 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [pct-l] C-A-M-P-F-I-R-E-S / And the Mountain Bike problem
>>>
>>>Craig, I have seen PCT posts that had, it was obvious, an emblem removed. This was in areas where, looking at the tire tracks, illegal MB's were using the PCT. So, I assume it was the MB'ers who removed  MB emblems. Unless you can catch them in the act and
 take pictures you can't prove it - and they know it. That sort of thing has been going on for a long time. More than a decade ago two of my customers (who had bought one of my Ford 4WD campers), and who were also among those who inspired me to ride the PCT,
 told the following PCT story from their experience as they hiked on it:  They had reached a place somewhere north of Agua Dulce ( I think that I remember that they had mentioned having stopped at the Saufleys. Their trail names, given to them by other hikers,
 was "Salt & Pepper"- later it was to become Orian and Brook) and got lost on a very steep trail that was supposed to be the PCT. They eventually turned back and on close examination of a fork
>>>in the trail, they discovered that the PCT post had been dug up and planted on the fork of the trail that they had taken. There were MB tracks on the fork of the trail that was the actual PCT. So, among the good advice that they gave me, was that if you find
 yourself on a trail that is very steep - it's not the PCT, you are probably lost. Getting lost can be risky.
>>>
>>>
>>>Documenting MB violations, vandalism, and illegal campfires, with pictures including both face and location identification, can help in protecting the PCT. We then must report them. If enough hikers and equestrians did that, there would be better enforcement
 of laws designed to protect the PCT. The consequences for willful violations should be substantial. 
>>>
>>>MendoRider-Hiker
>>>
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>>>
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>>>________________________________
>>>From: Craig Giffen <cg at lunky.com>
>>>To: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net> 
>>>Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 8:47 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [pct-l] C-A-M-P-F-I-R-E-S / And the Mountain Bike problem
>>>
>>>
>>>"Usual" yes, but I am finding a lot of posts that either have the mountain bike scratched out, or like I saw today near the Acorn trail, the red stripe removed and the PCT logo ripped off the post. Thus they can pull the tired "but the sign said it was a biking
 trail and not the PCT" stunt.
>>>
>>>I have been documenting every single piece of vandalism like this over the last 375 miles, sadly this won't be the last of it.
>>>
>>>Cg
>>>
>>>
>>>> The usual PCT post was there
>>>> and the bike symbol with the red slash through it
>>>> was obvious. There were four bikers. They certainly had to have seen it.
>>>
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