[pct-l] Los Padres National forest fire ban

[Edward Anderson]

Hello Judson and Jon,

I'm sure that a thru hiker would be OK - even if he only had a digging trowel rather than a shovel. What is far more important is that you are in compliance with the other requirements.

Of course, going cookless would be best, but most of us want to sometimes have a hot meal. And it can occasionally be cold in the desert - really.

I brought a Jetboil canister stove, and used it during my ride from Mexico to Canada. It has advantages over alcohol.  1) It is legal.  2) The canister fuel has substantially greater BTU's than alcohol - you can cook much faster.  3) There is NO wasted fuel - I open the valve and push the starter spark button at the same time. I can turn off the valve when I'm finished cooking. I can lower the flame and simmer if I want to. ( I have found that cooking at less than full valve is more fuel efficient)   4) The canisters can be sent to your resupply location.  5)  Fuel canisters have become increasingly available at more locations along the PCT.  6) It is not necessary to pour the fuel into the burner, as you must with a soda can stove. It isn't necessary to judge how much fuel to pour. Less waste. 7) All conditions considered, it is safer. You are less likely to start a wildfire. 


Just my opinion

MendoRider-Hiker,



________________________________
 From: Judson Brown <judsonwb at gmail.com>
To: "belcherjd at juno.com" <belcherjd at juno.com> 
Cc: PCT MailingList <pct-l at backcountry.net> 
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Los Padres National forest fire ban
 

Unfortunately, it seems as if there is no way for thru hikers to be in full
compliance of this. And I'm sure they're not too excited about homemade
stoves using denatured alcohol...


On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 4:54 PM, belcherjd at juno.com <belcherjd at juno.com>wrote:

> An exert from the Los Padres National Forest fire ban site
> http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/lpnf/home/?cid=stelprdb5401877
>
> • Wood and charcoal fires are prohibited in all areas of Los Padres
> National Forest except for designated Campfire Use sites; however persons
> with a valid California Campfire Permit are allowed to use portable stoves
> and lanterns using gas, jellied petroleum or pressurized liquid fuel
> outside of designated Campfire Use Sites. California Campfire Permits are
> available for free download from the Los Padres National Forest website
> http://www.fs.usda.gov/lpnf
> You must clear all flammable material for a distance of five feet in all
> directions from your camp stove, have a shovel available, and ensure that a
> responsible person attends the stove at all times when it is in use.
>
> I read this as: Jetboil stoves are allowed (pressurize canisters)
> MSR Whisperlite is allowed (Gas)  sterno type stoves are allowed (if using
> jellied petroleum not liquid) but a homemade cat stove would not be allowed
> (if using liquid alcohol).
>
> However, even if these stoves are allowed or not, how many of us are
> carrying a shovel?
>  I carry a ti trowel but not a shovel.
>
> 'til later,
> Jon (Gandalf - PCT class of 2013)
> Marysville WA
>
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