[pct-l] Camping on Whitney

[Benjamin Grunbaum]

I agree: a ban would be impossible to enforce.  Your suggestions sound like
good ways to combat the problem. I support community service.  What could
be better than ordering those who degrade the experience of others in the
hiking community to go back and do what they should have done in the first
place; many times over. We need some form of a solution. I know the forest
service and park service have been doing some cleanup around the most
affected areas.  Work which they should not have to do.  I will be going to
a talk at Adventure 16 in San Diego about Mt Whitney in the next week.  A
couple of people who have hiked it over 50 times each will be giving a
presentation. A ranger at Mt Whitney will be there.  I will ask them about
this problem.


On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Bob Bankhead <wandering_bob at comcast.net>wrote:

> Don't ban them; a ban almost impossible to enforce anyway and meaningless
> to
> folks who never intended to return to the area anyway.
>
> Make the punishment fit the crime.
>
> Require a very significant financial security deposit on their part (2 or 3
> times the cost of sending someone else to do it) - cash or credit card -
> then require them to go back to the trail and retrieve a given number of
> used WAG bags, no matter how many trips it takes. When they have done so,
> refund their deposit minus administrative costs, and THEN put them on the
> "do not permit" list.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Benjamin Grunbaum
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 7:41 AM
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net; Stephen M Crane
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Camping on Whitney
>
> They need some undercover Rangers to catch the violators . I would be
> supportive of banning violators from going into the area they broke the
> rules in. Hopefully that is not too harsh. Thank you for the advice.
>
>