[pct-l] Another "Bikes on the PCT" poll

Jim Marco jdm27 at cornell.edu
Wed Nov 27 13:34:51 CST 2013


Hi all,
	Philip Werner has been doing a poll on the bike/no bike ruling on the PCT. His address is at Sectionhiker.com and anyone can comment here: http://sectionhiker.com/reader-poll-should-mountain-bikes-be-allowed-on-the-pct/
    My thoughts only . . .
	jdm

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Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 12:10 AM
To: Nick Thelen
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Subject: Re: [pct-l] USFS response to bicycle prohibition on the PCT - 11.25.13

YEA!!!


On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Nick Thelen wrote:

> Below is the official response form Region 5 Forester Randy Moore in 
> regards to the PCTRI's request for MTB access
> on the PCT (outside of designated Wilderness)
> ______________________________________________________
> Date: 
>  November 25, 2013 
>  
> Mr. [Name Withheld] 
>  
> Pacific Crest Reassessment Initiative 
>  
> [Address Withheld] 
>  
>
>  
> Dear Mr. [Name Withheld]: 
> This letter is in response to your February 28 and April 27, 2013, 
> letters and our meeting on April 17, 2013.  I appreciate the interest 
> and the opportunity to meet with you and discuss the concerns 
> regarding the bicycle prohibition on the Pacific Crest National Scenic 
> Trail (PCT). 
>  
> Nation-wide, the Forest Service provides more trails for mountain 
> bicycling than any other land-management agency.  Over 98 percent 
> of the Forest Service’s non-wilderness trail miles are open to bicycle 
> use (125,962 miles).  We value this important recreation activity and 
> agree there is much to be gained by selecting focal areas to work with 
> communities and non-profits to improve opportunities for bicyclists. 
>  
> The primary uses for the PCT were determined by the PCT Comprehensive 
> Management Plan (CMP) and are also found in 36 C.F.R. § 212.21, 
> which states that the PCT is to be used “primarily as a footpath and 
> horseback riding trail.”  Since your initial inquiry, a complete 
> review of the 
> National Trails System Act legislation, legislative history, 
> regulations and policies, PCT CMP, PCT Advisory Council Minutes, and 
> agency correspondence 
> records has occurred.  Our research documents a legislative and 
> administrative intent that only hiking and equestrian use were to be 
> permitted on the PCT.  
> There is no evidence that bicycle use has ever been allowed on the 
> PCT.   
>  
> Your February 28, 2013, letter references bicycle use on the 
> Continental Divide National Scenic Trail.  The National Trails System 
> Act allows for bicycle 
> use in some circumstances.  There is a spectrum of opportunities for 
> bicycle use on the national scenic trails.  The Continental Divide 
> National Scenic Trail 
> (CDNST) CMP and directives may allow for bicycle use if the use is 
> “consistent with the applicable land and resource management plan and 
> will not 
> substantially interfere with the nature and purposes of the CDNST.” 
>  The Arizona and Pacific Northwest National Scenic Trails are 
> currently developing 
> Advisory Councils and CMPs and in the interim allow bicycle use 
> outside of designated wilderness.  However, the Appalachian National 
> Scenic Trail, 
> designated at the same time as the PCT, prohibits bicycle use.  The 
> opportunities permitted on the national scenic trails allow for a full 
> range of long-distance uses -- 
> from the primitive, wilderness oriented experiences of the Appalachian 
> and Pacific Crest National Scenic Trails to the shared-use 
> opportunities of the Arizona and 
> Pacific Northwest National Scenic Trails. The PCT Advisory Council was 
> required by the National Trails System Act to assist the agency with 
> the location and 
> administration of the PCT.  The Council contained members from 
> California, Oregon, and Washington at the recommendation of the 
> governors, representatives 
> from each federal, state, or local agency whose land the trail passes 
> through and members appointed to represent private organizations, 
> including corporate and
>  individual landowners and recreational users of the trail.  Bicycle 
> use was considered by the PCT Advisory Council in June 1972, November 
> 1982, September 1983, 
> November 1987 and in September 1988. Correspondance between Zane G. 
> Smith, Regional Forester and Gary L. Rosenberg (1984) and the November 
> 1982 
> PCT Advisory Council minutes document that there was consensus among 
> the Council that bicycles should be prohibited on the PCT. 
>  
> The continuation of Regional Order 88-4, which prohibits using or 
> possessing bicycles on the PCT, is consistent with legislation, 
> regulations, directives, the 
> recommendations of the PCT Advisory Council, and the PCT Comprehensive 
> Management Plan.  These authorities demonstrate that the Pacific Crest 
> National 
> Scenic Trail was intended to be administered as a footpath and 
> horseback riding trail.  The PCT was not planned or designed for 
> bicycle use, which has been 
> prohibited since 1971 (National Parks) and 1988 (BLM and U.S. Forest 
> Service).  The Forest Service has concerns about the safety of hikers 
> and equestrians 
> if the prohibition were rescinded.  The increased rate of speed at 
> which bicycles travel would require, at a minimum, an upgrade to the 
> standards for sight distance; 
> the widening of many sections of the trail or creating passing space 
> and/or trail “pinch points”; and establishing trail anchors to slow 
> speeds of travel.  These design 
> features would be necessary before the trail could accommodate bicycle 
> traffic to maintain a safe trail by addressing travel speed, response 
> time and maneuverability, 
> traction, adequate passing opportunities, and awareness of other 
> users.  In order to continue to protect the trail as a resource and to 
> provide a safe and unique recreation 
> experience for the primary users – hikers and equestrians – the 
> continuance of Regional Order 88-4 is needed.  Regional Order 88-4 is 
> not in conflict with other issued 
> orders or current regulations under 36 CFR Part 261, Subpart A.   
>  
> I am concerned about the contention that has developed between trail 
> users regarding the PCT and other national scenic trails.  I support 
> continuing a dialogue with trail 
> users in the hiker, equestrian, and mountain bicycling communities to 
> identify a balanced solution on our vast national trail system.  We 
> will work with stakeholders interested 
> in this issue to organize a professionally facilitated discussion in 
> the coming year, with the goal of finding common ground for resolving 
> disagreements.  If you have suggestions 
> regarding potential participants or facilitators to ensure that this 
> is a productive conversation, please contact Kathy Mick, Regional 
> Trails Program Manager at kmick at fs.fed.us or 
> (707) 562-8859 or Beth Boyst, Pacific Crest Trail Program Manager at 
> bboyst at fs.fed.us or (707) 562-8881. 
>  
> Sincerely, 
>
>  
> /s/ Randy Moore 
>  
> RANDY MOORE 
>  
> Regional Forester 
>
> ___________________________________________________
>
> Happy Thanksgiving y'all - hope you all have a great holiday!
> Love,
> Nick
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