[pct-l] Personal Realities - women in mind...

Sat Apr 12 21:51:16 CDT 2014

Maybe the Women of the PCT would like to join the North350Blades women only weeklong workparty in August. Its list on the PCTA website.
Probably got myself in trouble with this suggestion!

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From: "Carol" <museumgirl at me.com>
Sent: April 12, 2014 12:29 PM
To: "Nikki Eddy" <nikkieddy at yahoo.com>
Cc: "Pct-L" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Personal Realities - women in mind...

Hi, Nikki. I'm snickering. Jeffrey was responding to my plea to Diane that she join our Women of the PCT group. That's how the whole conversation got started! I wanted her to come over from the Dark Side so that I wouldn't have to do so much sifting. Alas, she's much more even-tempered than I and navigates these waters quite well, so she won't join us. She has a thing about FaceBook. :o( Perhaps we can appoint a liaison officer to come over here and cull out the truly useful information for us so that we don't have to do it. Some of the people on this list actually care about hiking and the trail. Like Jeffrey. :o)

On Apr 12, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Nikki Eddy wrote:

> If you're a woman who's new to this list and are bothered by some of the chest-thumping, ego-driven comments posted here, join the "Women of the PCT" group on Facebook. It provides such a stark contrast to this list...not once have I ever seen hiker women behave online the way some men here do.
> This listserv offers some great stuff sometimes, but unfortunately it can also perpetuate some ugly, caustic, sexist, and even racist perspectives. If you're looking for a great resource without the other garbage, try the FB page. You'll be informed AND inspired...and to the "bad apples" out there: one reason I hike is to get away from the elements of society that are like you. Check your egos and look around...most of us are here for a positive and enlightening experience. Just my $.02 :)
> Nikki
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 11, 2014, at 9:42 PM, marmot marmot <marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Oh yes. We all do. A hiker brother that I value so much.  Marmot
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Apr 11, 2014, at 8:07 PM, "Ann Gerckens" <anngerckens at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> re: Personal Realities - women in mind...
>>> Jeffrey, have I ever mentioned that I love you?
>>> SPLAT!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 11:56 PM, Jeffrey Olson <jjolson60 at centurylink.net>wrote:
>>>
>>>> This forum is the best place to get information and perspectives about
>>>> hiking the PCT.  If you just discovered the listserv and are really
>>>> excited to find a place to get your questions answered, you are at the
>>>> right place.
>>>>
>>>> Listen to Diane and Shroomer.  Brick throws in his acerbic comments.
>>>> Yogi is there for technical questions.  There have been lots of people
>>>> who have maintained a presence on the listserv  since it started in 1994.
>>>>
>>>> Because the listserv has existed for 20 years, the variety of
>>>> contributions is manifold.   That means threads get established and the
>>>> world is our oyster...
>>>>
>>>> There are members of the listserv who are trolls.  Their posts are
>>>> sexist and demeaning.  Every once in a while - about twice a year
>>>> -        women point out that perpetrating sexual violence is unacceptable.
>>>>
>>>> Please ignore the idiots who inflict their personal pain on us.
>>>>
>>>> I implore the women who find us (the listserv) to continue to take risks
>>>> and express your questions and fears and seated understandings.  Diane
>>>> is such a good role model.  She has a well developed perspective.  Lots
>>>> of us do.  She actually is able to express it.
>>>>
>>>> The PCT is an  experience, not a place.  This listserv is here to
>>>> support you as you develop your dreams about what life means.  Just
>>>> ignore the stupid male sexist shit and build on what Diane says.. If you
>>>> spend six weeks or more on a trail, you'll be transformed. If you are
>>>> interested in transforming, share your thoughts/feelings and take a
>>>> minor risk.  We'll shut down the trolls and self-absorbed sexists.  We
>>>> want to hear what you are thinking and feeling.  I really think and feel
>>>> deeply that this forum is a place for future women leaders - local,
>>>> state, national, and world - to cut her/their teeth.
>>>>
>>>> Jeffrey Olson
>>>> Rapid City, SD
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