[pct-l] Ursack S29 a step closer...

[kevin at kegphoto.com]

A link to the bear on the wire video for those interested (I have no
connection to Garrett Bros):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UucHtYr29cE

Remarkable climbers.



On Sun, Apr 20, 2014, at 04:26 PM, walt Durling wrote:
>  If the ursack is approved, I suspect a great  many hikers will flock to
>  it.  At that point the discussion will necessarily shift to one of
>  convenience to the hiker rather than danger to our ursine friends. 
>  Those who choose to go the ursack route will be acting just as
>  responsibly as those who elect to go the hard container route.  No
>  container is 100% bear proof. Every container has its pros and cons. If
>  a hiker acts irresponsibly, it matters not which type container is
>  utilized.  
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On Apr 20, 2014, at 18:42, Mike Cunningham <hikermiker at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 
> > The real problem is that a bear that gets your food is inevitably a dead bear. If you will not do what is right stay out of bear country & it really is their country. They live there, not us.
> > 
> > hm
> > --------------------------------------------
> > On Sun, 4/20/14, Jackie McDonnell <yogihikes at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] Ursack S29 a step closer...
> > To: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> > Date: Sunday, April 20, 2014, 12:00 AM
> > 
> > The bears are EXACTLY that
> > smart.  Smarter, actually.
> > 
> > Save your food.  Save the bears.  Use a bear
> > canister.
> > 
> > Yogi
> > www.yogisbooks.com
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 10:57 PM, Gail Van Velzer <vanvelzer at charter.net>wrote:
> > 
> >> It is true that everything in the Ursak can be
> > crushed.  It's also true
> >> that
> >> the bear canister can be used as a seat or table. 
> > But, the Ursak still
> >> packs easier and is lighter.  There's got to be a
> > way to hang it and
> >> confound the bears!  They can't be that smart, can
> > they?
> >> 
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Bob Bankhead" <wandering_bob at comcast.net>
> >> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> >> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 7:05 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Ursack S29 a step closer...
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> Try placing your sleeping pad between your bear
> > can and your back. Works
> >>> wonders for carrying comfort, and I use a
> > Bearikade Expedition. I gave
> >>> away
> >>> my Ursack years ago.
> >>> 
> >>> Ursacks are more comfortable and are easier to
> > position within your pack
> >>> because they are soft-sided and flexible and can
> > be mostly re-shaped as
> >>> needed. Bear cans are rigid and close more easily
> > and securely; what you
> >>> have is what you get.
> >>> 
> >>> Hard-sided bear cans make great camp seats and/or
> > tables and provide far
> >>> better physical protection to their contents.
> > Ursacks' flexibility means
> >>> their contents can be more easily crushed by
> > bears, or by your own weight
> >>> if
> >>> used for pillows or sit-upons.
> >>> 
> >>> In the end, you pay your money and take your
> > choice (and your chances).
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> And then there's the issue of what's deemed
> > acceptable by the powers that
> >>> be..............
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Matthew Edwards
> >>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Ursack S29 a step closer...
> >>> 
> >>> Might not be for everyone.
> >>> I have a BV 500 and an Ursack S29.
> >>> The advantage for comfort in the pack goes to the
> > Ursack by far.
> >>> 
> >>> Might be handy for hikers that find carrying 
> > barrel between the shoulder
> >>> blades painful.
> >>> 
> >>> 
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