[pct-l] Water Cache at Scissors Xing

[marmot marmot]

Yes !!why not?  
As long as they don't do anything that's puts other people at risk to rescue them. I say ,always choose to stay alive and keep others alive. No one cares or gives points for the lightest pack ,fastest hike,most miles in a day,that you didn't stop for the day and warm up when it got too cold. Only you care about all of that. Don't let your demons drive you. The trail will be there. 
I've seen many people with their first pack do just fine.  
Be safe out there 
Marmot

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> On Apr 27, 2014, at 6:07 PM, "Lyn Turner" <thelyn at icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> And why not? If they feel fit and strong enough to walk miles and carry a pack, if they can use a map, if they know how to look after themselves and LNT, be respectful of the trail and others hiking...why not?
> 
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> 
>> On 28 Apr 2014, at 01:59, Gail Van Velzer <vanvelzer at charter.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I have thought many times about putting teeth behind permits.  Just the fire 
>> permit alone should make a person prove they know what they are doing. 
>> Permits are issued for the asking.  That doesn't ensure safety.  Not even a 
>> question is asked when you get a permit and certainly nothing is enforced! 
>> I agree that a PCT permit should only be issued after a person has proven 
>> they have the experience to tackle such a thing.  Too many people begin with 
>> no experience with a long distance hike let alone any backpacking knowledge. 
>> I just met a person today at the Kickoff that told me they have only 
>> backpacked a few times....and they are tackling the PCT?
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Luce Cruz" <lucecruz13 at gmail.com>
>> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 9:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Water Cache at Scissors Xing
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Apr 24, 2014 6:20 PM, "Judson Brown" <judsonwb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> . Make the permitting process much more stringent, with some teeth
>>>> behind it, or even start charging for the permit. Maybe before being
>>>> allowed a permit, you have to pass a class on LNT, fire/stove safety,
>>>> long-distance hiking logistics, etc., which could be administered, say,
>>>> through REI outlets. Or taken online.
>>> 
>>> This is not the way I picture open access to public land. The need is
>>> enforcement of current laws and regulations, not more hoops for users to
>>> jump through. I've always imagined that enforcement could be self
>>> sustaining in that fines should pay for the enforcers, but they are human,
>>> too, and might abuse that system.
>>> 
>>> I am not "on the ground" so to speak for the trip on the trail, but I can
>>> easily imagine that the reason folks get away with their terrible behavior
>>> and treatment of their surroundings is simply because most of the time, if
>>> someone sees their transgressions, no one says or does anything about it.
>>> If that is the case, it makes me sad.
>>> 
>>> Where have all the "stand up" people gone?
>>> 
>>> Luce Cruz
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