[pct-l] Insole-nt Question
ken at gottawalk.com
Thu Feb 6 17:22:06 CST 2014
That foam pad Shroomer spoke of is a Dr Sholls insert sold at nearly every
grocery & drug store in the US. About a 1/4 inch of padding for the sharp
rocky trails. When it starts getting flat I pull the pad out. My socks are
very thin sock liners and the shoes are New Balance Minimus trail running
shoes. Almost no padding between my feet and the trail.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Slusser" <michael.slusser at gmail.com>
To: "Scott Williams" <baidarker at gmail.com>
Cc: "PCT" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Insole-nt Question
Rock on. I think my hesitation was only because so many people kept looking
at me strangely and suggesting I was going to die if I didn't get a good
insole. Thanks hugely for this insight (and for the other helpful ideas as
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Scott Williams <baidarker at gmail.com> wrote:
> That's a good bit of my story as well Professor. In 2010, I'd been
> training in light trail shoes all winter with no problem and a month
> setting out on the PCT I decided to try Superfeet. I had plantar's
> Faciitis within a few days. I pulled them out, but suffered with light PF
> all across the deserts. The 5 weeks of snow in the High Sierra in seemed
> to cure it. The pace was reduced drastically and the swelling was helped
> because it was as if my feet were on ice for much of the day, which in
> they were. Walking wet also chilled 'em out. I blasted up the northern
> Sierra and across Oregon hiking 30 to 35 mile days for weeks and did just
> Then came WA and a tougher trail again, but we kept up the high mileage
> for the first week or two and bam, the PF came back gangbusters. I padded
> and cushioned everything I could and lived on vitamin I all the way to
> Canada. Then the worst was that even off trail it didn't go away. By mid
> November I was getting ready to see a Dr. when I read "Born to Run" and
> heard of the importance of not cushioning your feet so that they can
> strengthen naturally. I pulled out the heal pad. Instant relief. A few
> days later I pulled out the arch support. Even better relief. Within the
> week I had pulled out everything including the insert! That fast, the
> that had been plaguing me for 3 months was gone!!!
> So, over the next year, I trained with light shoes with no insert at all
> and then headed off on the CDT in 2012 and hiked the whole darn thing with
> no pain. Rocks, scree, snow, roots and being lost in total disasters of
> overgrown vegetation and downfall, and my feet felt great!
> I've been training for the AT for the past year and all this winter in the
> oldest trail shoes I have. They're like walking on thick paper they're so
> thin. They're about to come through in several places and have no
> whatsoever, but I love them. They cause my foot to become tough and my
> ankles strong. Having to adjust for slippery slopes and rocks makes you
> become more observant of what you're stepping on and how you're supporting
> yourself. Not relying on tread makes me conscious of walking with care,
> and I'm still fast for an old goat!
> Since 2010, I've come to love the feel of all the rocks and roots. It's
> like getting a foot massage whenever I hike. Going without an insole at
> first can be kind of scary, and your feet may even get a bit bruised. For
> this I still carry a simple, flat foam insert to provide a cushion if I
> find I need one. But I haven't had to use it since the CDT. At the GGG a
> few weeks ago, Ken Powers told me he also carries a simple foam pad for
> hard rock sections. He'll put them in when he needs them and then take
> them out when he's back on softer trail. He and Marcia hike in the
> lightest "slippers" I've ever seen and they've done huge distances in
> and they're feet stay healthy. We can build strong feet in spite of all
> the years of cushioning and padding we've done to them previously.
> So, if you can persevere, stick with the lightest shoes and insoles you
> can manage, or so insoles at all. Don't hurt yourself, maybe keep the
> insoles in your pack at first. I carried mine for the first 1,000 miles
> so of the CDT and only threw them out in Colorado when it became clear I
> wouldn't need them, but I still keep a foam pad, just in case.
> Good luck, I think you're on to something!
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Michael Slusser <michael.slusser at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>> Here's the short version of my story (no, really):
>> About a decade ago, I started having trouble with heel, toe, and knee
>> and swelling (plantar fasciitis, metatarsalgia kinds of issues)--not
>> constant, but too often. I tried out Superfeet and had a good results
>> only occasional bouts of trouble, maybe once a month. As I started
>> for the thru-hike this year, the incidents started to worry me more, so I
>> tried out half a dozen orthotics. A trip to the orthopedist later, I
>> hadn't found a great solution. I've had Montrails, Solomons, New Balance,
>> and Brooks, all of which performed about the same.
>> In frustration, one day I took out all the trappings and walked around in
>> shoes with no insole at all.
>> That was four months ago, and since I haven't had a single issue. I'm
>> afraid to be hopeful that this is a solution, but I'm willing to try it
>> The only concern is that, without an insole, I feel a lot of the rocks
>> other detritus on the path. So the question is, does anyone have a good
>> suggestion for some sort of very, very thin padding to take the place of
>> the missing insoles?
>> Muchas gracias,
>> Professor Errant
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