[pct-l] Pct-L Digest, Vol 88, Issue 6

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Mon Apr 6 15:03:06 CDT 2015


Thanks for your support prompt reply to our inquiry regarding storage. We would have like to start re our vessel with you, but our last height is 63' and we cannot pass under several bridges a route. Have a good summer and thank you for your assistance!

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>   1. Re: Guffy Campground (364) to Hwy 2 (369) (marmot marmot)
>   2. Re: spot / inreach rental? (John Casterline)
>   3. Can you be billed for search and rescue in California (,)
>   4. Southbound resupply (Jan-Louis Wiedmann)
>   5. Re: Can you be billed for search and rescue in California
>      (Gail Van Velzer)
>   6. Camping at Campo? (wendyatr)
>   7. Re: Can you be billed for search and rescue in California
>      (Tom Grundy)
>   8. Re: It had to come sooner or later...... (Tortoise)
>   9. Re: Solar chargers (James Vesely)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 10:25:51 -0700
> From: marmot marmot <marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com>
> To: Ron Graybill <rgraybill44 at gmail.com>
> Cc: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Guffy Campground (364) to Hwy 2 (369)
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> No snow til you hit Baden Powell.  There are patches on the way up BP and along the ridge 
> Marmot
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>> On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:04 AM, Ron Graybill <rgraybill44 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Has anyone recently been on the trail between Mile 364 and 368--up above
>> Wrightwood and Mountain High Ski resort? It was apparently still covered
>> with snow in mid-March.  How is it now?
>> Ron "Slo Charger" Graybill
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> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 13:39:57 -0400
> From: John Casterline <tnx4asking at gmail.com>
> To: "Pietro, Michael M.D." <mmpietro at hinet.org>
> Cc: "Pct-L at backcountry.net" <Pct-L at backcountry.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] spot / inreach rental?
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> I show the telephone #'s as:
> Customer Care:
> 1 (866) OK1-SPOT   { (866) 651-7768 }
>> From outside of North America:
> +1 (408) 933-4518
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> On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Pietro, Michael M.D. <mmpietro at hinet.org>
> wrote:
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>> I'm not aware of a rental service. I had to subscribe to my Spot sevice
>> for a full year to activate it. Worse, the "automatic renewal" was not
>> optional. The thing would have charged my credit card $150 a year for the
>> rest of my life if I didn't call to cancel the service. Don't lose the
>> phone number when you sign up, you won't find it on the web site.
>> 
>> That said, the device worked pretty well and was the cheapest and lightest
>> I found.
>> 
>> Mike Pietro
>> 
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 17:18:59 -0700
>> From: Tom Grundy <caver456 at gmail.com<mailto:caver456 at gmail.com>>
>> To: PCT listserve <pct-l at backcountry.net<mailto:pct-l at backcountry.net>>
>> Subject: [pct-l] spot / inreach rental?
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>> Does anyone have experience with renting one of these types of devices for
>> a period of 2-3 weeks?  Any gotchas, hidden costs, etc to consider?  Also,
>> any opinions on what the best device along these lines is?
>> Thanks
>> 
>> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 19:02:30 -0400
> From: "," <earthford at aol.com>
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: [pct-l] Can you be billed for search and rescue in California
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> Apparently a bill passed last year in CA and was vetoed by the governor. Some states have a corsar card (Colorado) that costs a few bucks or if you have a fishing or hunting license, you cannot be billed for a rescue.
> 
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> Karl Ford
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2015 11:55:29 +0200
> From: Jan-Louis Wiedmann <jan-louis.wiedmann at live.de>
> To: Pct-L at backcountry.net
> Subject: [pct-l] Southbound resupply
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> Hi! :)
> 
> I am planning on joking the PCT southbound and want to resupply as I go.
> Does one of you guys know, to which  towns it might be useful to send packages to, as they close early or are to small?
> Or if not, how can I find out about it?
> 
> Thanks ;)
> 
> Ian
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 22:23:59 -0700
> From: "Gail Van Velzer" <vanvelzer at charter.net>
> To: "," <earthford at aol.com>,    <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Can you be billed for search and rescue in
>    California
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> Can anyone shed more light on this?
> Golly
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "," <earthford at aol.com>
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 4:02 PM
> Subject: [pct-l] Can you be billed for search and rescue in California
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>> 
>> Apparently a bill passed last year in CA and was vetoed by the governor. 
>> Some states have a corsar card (Colorado) that costs a few bucks or if you 
>> have a fishing or hunting license, you cannot be billed for a rescue.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Karl Ford
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> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 08:36:59 -0500
> From: wendyatr <wendyatr at yahoo.com>
> To: Pct-L at backcountry.net
> Subject: [pct-l] Camping at Campo?
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> 
> I will be starting what I hope will be a thru hike later this month and want to begin very earlt before dawn at the southern terminus . So I'd like to stay overnight there in Campo in order to be well rested for the first 30 mile day. Yogi seemed to indicate it is unsafe to camp in Campo but it is unclear to me what other options exist. Anyone have ideas?
> 
> Sent on a Sprint Samsung Galaxy S? III
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 06:55:00 -0700
> From: Tom Grundy <caver456 at gmail.com>
> To: Gail Van Velzer <vanvelzer at charter.net>
> Cc: PCT listserve <pct-l at backcountry.net>, "," <earthford at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Can you be billed for search and rescue in
>    California
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> That CORSAR card looks interesting, hadn't heard of it before:
> 
> http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite/DOLA-Main/CBON/1251592090523
> 
> So it's just a voluntary donation, not insurance.  And it doesn't sound
> like they only rescue card-carrying members so that's good!
> 
> Anyway, time and labor and other costs incurred by the volunteer SAR team
> are always free as far as I know.
> 
> Transport by third parties (helo, ambulance) can be billed or not, it's up
> to that third party.  There are helicopter transport
> 'membership'/'insurance' options you can join/buy for <$100/yr depending on
> your location, but, they only cover transport by certain agencies.  If that
> agency's helicopter is unavailable, they may send one that will still bill
> you the $20k or so for a ride to the hospital.  And, you don't get to
> request one agency or another if you do need a ride.
> 
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 10:23 PM, Gail Van Velzer <vanvelzer at charter.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> Can anyone shed more light on this?
>> Golly
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "," <earthford at aol.com>
>> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 4:02 PM
>> Subject: [pct-l] Can you be billed for search and rescue in California
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>> 
>> 
>>> Apparently a bill passed last year in CA and was vetoed by the governor.
>>> Some states have a corsar card (Colorado) that costs a few bucks or if you
>>> have a fishing or hunting license, you cannot be billed for a rescue.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Karl Ford
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 08:04:06 -0700
> From: Tortoise <tortoise73 at charter.net>
> To: Bob Bankhead <wandering_bob at comcast.net>
> Cc: PCT List Forum <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] It had to come sooner or later......
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> I recall reading years ago that Colin Fletcher used airdrops to resupplying him in his Grand Canyon trek.
> 
> Tortoise
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> Dictated / Typoed on my iPad.
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>> On Apr 3, 2015, at 21:46, Bob Bankhead <wandering_bob at comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Find a niche and fill it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://sectionhiker.com/air-drop-airborne-drone-resupply-service-on-appalach
>> ian-trail/
>> 
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 16:13:21 +0000
> From: James Vesely <JVesely at sstinternational.com>
> To: "Pct-L at backcountry.net" <Pct-L at backcountry.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Solar chargers
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> I still have a few high grade solar panels for sale they are 7" x 10" in size and are made with high efficiency monocrystalline photovoltaic cells (17+ tested efficiency)  I have tested the panels on a clear winter day and they put out an amazing 750mah at 5 volts.    The panels weigh 5.5 oz and that includes a voltage stabilizing circuit board and housing with a standard  5 volt USB output plug.    I have also weather proofed the USB housing so as to be rain resistant.  I will punch 4 holes on the corners of the panel so you can secure  it to the top of your backpack 
> 
> The panels are not flexible because high efficiency monocrystalline cells cannot be made that way .   These photovoltaic cells are mounted on a lightweight circuit board material and then laminated with a PET material for durability.   They are very sturdy and would be rather difficult to break.
> 
> I have been researching this for a couple of years now and found that for their weight there is nothing more efficiency then monocrystalline cells except multi-junction cells which NASA uses and are in the $300-$400 per watt range.    The panels can charge any phone but I would highly suggest charging a portable 2000-3000 Mah USB backup battery instead especially  if you are going to hike and charge at the same time.  Direct charging of your cell phone is the most efficient method but cell phones do not like intermittent charging which can obviously occur whenever you pass shady areas.
> 
> I have also tested some USB battery backup options and all I can say is buyer beware.   Battery capacities are HIGHLY exaggerated for example I recently purchased some 18650 type Li-ion cells advertised as 5000 Mah only to be tested at less than 900 Mah (your cell phone battery is around 2000-3000 Mah).  I suggest looking at the reviews for any particular battery backup and look for the words "I tested the capacity".    The website Adafruit advertised a couple these as being acceptable.   Also all charge/discharge systems have inefficiencies so you probably will not get a full 3000 mah out of a 3000 mah battery backup.
> 
> If anyone is interested I am asking $75 each with postage included.
> 
> Pictures are at this link.
> 
> https://plus.google.com/photos/100489363658004251804/albums/6111287435181323441
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pct-L [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Roger Carpenter
> Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 9:24 PM
> To: 'Rebecca Mezoff'; Pct-L at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Solar chargers
> 
> A week ago I purchased a Goal Zero Switch 8 solar charger kit with my REI dividend. Next week I will take it to Western Australia where I will hike for a few days before working for a week.  I will update everyone on how it worked.  
> 
> Roger Carpenter (Pinecone)
> 
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> From: Pct-L [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Rebecca Mezoff
> Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2015 12:19 PM
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: [pct-l] Solar chargers
> 
> I was unable to find the time for a PCT thru this year, but I am going to do the Colorado Trail (500 miles). Any recommendations on the best and lightest solar chargers that would charge an iPhone and/or an iPad mini? I realize many of you will say, don't bring any electronics, but some things in my life at the moment mean that I am going to need at least one of these devices. Carrot Quinn used a Suncharger 5 portable solar charger on her 2014 hike and seemed to like it. Any other thoughts about this one? Others?
> Thanks!
> Rebecca
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