[pct-l] Fwd: Camlbak All Clear

[Jay Bruins]

Insightful. A few follow up questions based on the manufacturers claims, if you don’t mind. ( http://www.steripen.com/steripen-misconceptions )

When was your yoyo? They redesigned the sensor in 2009.

Did it fail on “snow melt” like they claim or other sources?


There’s plenty of anecdotes elsewhere on the internet, but a yoyo seems like a more consistent test environment.

J



> On Jan 7, 2015, at 4:35 PM, marmot marmot <marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Unreliable means that on a yoyo of the Backbone trail, I used the same water sources going as coming back. The excuse that the manufacturer used that there weren't enough minerals in the water so that's why it would not register ---show a smiley face,did not fly.  
> The excuse that altitude bothered it wasn't true either. So I just can't trust it
> Marmot
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 7, 2015, at 3:51 PM, Jay Bruins <jbruins at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone care to elaborate on "unreliable"?
>> 
>> I've used a Steripen Freedom when traveling abroad (eg restaurants) as well as with a Nalgene in the backcountry. Haven't had an issue. What failure modes should I be wary of?
>> 
>> For two people, it's much nicer than the Sawyer (mini or otherwise). In Henry Coe last week I had to sleep with the mini I carried just to ensure it didn't freeze. I'd honestly consider bringing it on the PCT this year except I can't figure out how I'd use it with anything other than a Nalgene. (A Gatorade bottle is 20oz. Burning the power of two treatments for less than 32oz doesn't seem like a win to me.)
>> 
>> Jay
>> 
>> PS Burned through the three bags the Squeeze came with. Returned it to REI. When I replaced it with a Mini, I picked up an Evernew 900ml bag, which has held up twice as long as the Sawyer bags. I may pick up a few more bags and Evernew's hose to complete the hydration system and call it even.
>> 
>>> On Jan 5, 2015, at 6:22 PM, be hope <bh.csuchico at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Been using the same SteriPEN Adventure unit since 2008. Logged over 4 K
>>> trail miles ~~ including some wildernesses where I don't treat the water.
>>> It's worked perfectly and flawlessly every time. At the end of each hiking
>>> season, I remove the batteries (per the fine print in the Steripen user's
>>> manual ) from the unit and ~~ depending on the time out on the trail ~~
>>> might use those batteries the next hiking season for a spell before
>>> replacing them with the extra batteries I always carry. Treating water when
>>> the battery is cold will drain the battery faster. If I anticipate treating
>>> water early in the morning, I'll keep the unit in my sleeping bag
>>> overnight.
>>> 
>>> A UV treatment method will both filter and purify water. One time I asked a
>>> doctor specializing in infectious diseases . . . ."why should hikers be
>>> concerned with water purification?" It seemed that hikers only needed to
>>> filter water and not have the purification capability in a water treatment
>>> system in the backcounty. His answer: “yes, you really don't have to be
>>> worried about water purification in the backcountry, BUT, one never knows.”
>>> 
>>> Since a UV treatment may be ineffective with non denuded water, I also
>>> carry a Steripen Pre-filter ~~ that thing really does pre-filter all kinds
>>> of stuff. And if the water is really bad, my small synthetic wash cloth
>>> will serve as a pre-pre-filter.
>>> 
>>> If my water bottle lid gets wet before treatment, then that lid-water is
>>> not gonna get the UV treatment. After treating a bottle of water, I'll
>>> carefully swish a small amount of treated water from the bottle to rinse
>>> the lid; the same infectious disease doctor above assure me that is
>>> sufficient to remove any non treated water from the lid.
>>> 
>>> Never had giardia, but as we all know, personal hygiene is critical and may
>>> be more important than the water treatment system one uses, UV or non UV.
>>> 
>>> Let me take this opportunity to wish all a Happy New Year and best wishes
>>> for hiking this year !
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> be hope
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 4:19 PM, marmot marmot <marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> My experience with a steripen is that they are unreliable.
>>>> ​ . . . ​
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