[pct-l] PCTA Statement on Water Caches

[Gail Van Velzer]

I like the well idea and you could use solar power for a pump and filter.

One thing I learned is that the Forest Service is not taking care of the 
wells that are already out there, like Bike Spring.  It's been dry for 
years.  There are a lot of wells, and springs up in Angeles Crest that are 
also dry.  The ones along from Maxwell CG to Hiker Town also are dry.  One 
of our drivers was an LA County Fire Dept. supervisor, who also worked for 
the forest service at one time.  He told me that they aren't maintaining the 
wells, which are historically used for fires, due to cost (supposed).  They 
use inmate labor, at $1./day to clear trails and do other "fire" work.  The 
inmates get $.1/hour if they are fighting a fire.  That doesn't sound 
expensive to me!  They instead use helicopters to bring water to a fire, 
from wherever they can get it, which might be quite a distance.  In the 
meantime, the fire burns, causing much more damage (and cost).  The cost of 
operating a helicopter can't be less than $1./hour.  I wonder if we can't 
put pressure on the Forest Service to maintain and fix what is already 
there?  After all, the San Gabriels are now a National Monument and we're 
supposed to be getting extra funding, right?  LOL!  Who knows the story on 
the tank at Guffy CG?  It's been dry for years and getting to the water, if 
you can find it, isn't easy either.  That's one tank that could be filled. 
Is the problem with people leaving the valve on?  How about the resevoir 
that is used for either snow making or water in Wrightwood (I don't know) 
being accessable to hikers?  I think there's lots that could be done.
Golly

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "marmot marmot" <marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com>
To: "Scott Bryce" <sbryce at scottbryce.com>
Cc: "PCT L." <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCTA Statement on Water Caches


> I'll certainly bring it up at the next GATHERING as a possible project   I 
> know that it's very expensive and in some places not even allowed but I'll 
> follow that up. It could be a long term project for PCTA,ALDHAWEST and the 
> horse folks
> Marmot
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 2, 2015, at 3:14 PM, Scott Bryce <sbryce at scottbryce.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/2/2015 12:52 PM, Barry Teschlog wrote:
>>> http://www.pcta.org/2015/problem-water-caches-pct-27677/ IMO,
>>> Excellent.
>>
>>
>> What would happen if all those people who want to help out the trail
>> community put their resources together and looked into the feasibility
>> of putting in a well to break up any waterless section of over 20 miles?
>>
>> Some places just wouldn't work. A well at the Third Gate would be silly,
>> but that only breaks up a 21 mile section, and reliable water at
>> Scissors Crossing should make a well at the Third Gate unnecessary.
>>
>> Some places might work. Scissors Crossing would be easy to get equipment
>> to, and the well probably wouldn't have to be very deep. Would it be
>> vandalized by the local partiers? You couldn't move it far from the
>> highway on either side.
>>
>> The Lucky 5 cache is no longer maintained since a well was put in at
>> Sunrise Trailhead.
>>
>> Is this even a good idea? I'd rather have wells than caches.
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