[pct-l] Bear Canister requirement after Sonora Pass

[Scott Williams]

When applying for a permit to hike the JMT in the Ansel Adams and other
National Forest Wilderness areas last summer, the Ursack and Opsack
combination was fine with the rangers who issued the pass to us in Bishop.
They told us it was now approved in all National Forest Wilderness areas in
the Sierra, but was not approved for the National Parks at that time.
Sequoia, Kings Canyon and Yosemite, you still needed a can.  As we weren't
going into the NPs, we used the Ursack/opsack combo and it did fine.  I'll
use it whenever it's legal to do so at this point, because it's so light.
I'll also carry it in areas where not required, but in which I know there
are bears just to be on the safe side.  Easy to use and light, it is much
more readily packable than my old bear cans.

Shroomer



On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 5:33 PM, <TBrokaw at montmush.com> wrote:

> Although Ursack has IGBC cert. It is NOT listed on the JMT approved list.
> Perhaps it may be in the future?
> But relying on a Ursack inside the required areas at this time could
> result in a stiff fine.
>
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> From:   JOSEPH LAFLAMME <jalaflamme at msn.com>
> To:     Denis Stanton <denisstanton at mac.com>, PCT List
> <pct-l at backcountry.net>,
> Date:   05/03/2016 04:39 PM
> Subject:        Re: [pct-l] Bear Canister requirement after Sonora Pass
> Sent by:        Pct-L <pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net>
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>
> Denis
> It is my understanding that bear canisters are NOT required after Sonora
> Pass.  In fact there is a company that will pickup your bear canister and
> sent it home for you at Sonora Pass.  A good alternative is a Ursack. They
> make a Kevlar bag which when combined with odor proof bags is significant
> lighter than a bear canister.   It has received IGBC certification.  Their
> website is www.ursack.com
> JoeSnake Charmer Hiking at Fifty & Beyond
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Denis Stanton <denisstanton at mac.com>
> Date: 5/3/2016  7:08 PM  (GMT-05:00)
> To: PCT List <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Bear Canister requirement after Sonora Pass
>
> Hi,
> looking for some collective wisdom on bear canister requirements.
>
> Over the last nine years I have slowly section hiked from Kennedy Meadows
> to Sonora Pass, always using a Bear Vault.
> This year I plan to hike from Sonora Pass to Echo Lake.
>
> My questions are:
> is this outside of the area requiring the use of a bear canister?
>
> even if not required by regulation, would you still use one on this trail
> section?
>
> If you are wondering why I might not want to carry one, it just comes down
> to the weight, and secondarily the bulk in my suitcase when I fly
> international to the US.  I have no wish to flout regulations or give
> unnecessary temptation to bears.  I once spent a long night in close
> proximity to a destructive bear and was glad to have my food stowed in the
> bear vault well away from my sleeping spot.
>
> Denis Stanton
> Walks with Son
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