[pct-l] Fires

[Scott Diamond]

No that is not a nice e-mail. Worse though, it is factually inaccurate.

I've heard these overarching statements by some that "alcohol stoves are
banned from the PCT!".  Anecdotally, last summer when getting a ride up to
Walker pass, I was picked up by a ranger and former forest fire fighter.
She indicated that there was not any ban on alcohol stoves.  I had heard
that Sequoia has restrictions and I did a quick Google Search.  The webpage
states that for designated campgrounds
<https://www.nps.gov/seki/learn/nature/fire-restrictions.htm>"propane,
alcohol (with and without a shutoff valve) and tablet/cube stoves are
permitted". And this is all the way up to level 3 (extreme).  The
additional restrictions for backpacking
<https://www.nps.gov/seki/planyourvisit/minimum-impact-restrictions.htm> do
not mention a shut off valve.  If someone has some verifiable objective
evidence showing otherwise then please post it. I'm open to learning.

It is a free country and you are welcome to express your opinions. We could
lecture each other on the evils of Walmart, buying bottled water,  or other
issues but I'd suggest that lecturing people in this manner, while it may
make you feel better, is very ineffective.

   - Rover



On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 1:07 PM, marmot marmot <marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> There have been so many references on line to making a fire on the trail.
> Hikers--class of 2017---you do not make fires. This is southern Calif.
> Every section you have walked through has had enormous burns. Most of those
> burns were caused by people. ALL of those people thought that they knew
> what they were doing. You are only allowed to use a backpacking stove with
> a shut off valve. No Alcohol, No esbit tabs. NO STUPID CAMPFIRES. I don't
> care if you imagine that just because you have a fire permit that you can
> burn up the forest because you want to have Somemores. Campfires require a
> shovel,water,a huge diameter of plant free dirt. Do you have that?  I doubt
> it. This is mindless behavior. The Lake Fire burned 30,000 acres. This is
> not a nice email. It is not meant to be. The animals,trees and plants you
> kill by carelessness, will never come back. It does not matter that you
> imagine you can control a fire. So did everyone who thought that they could
> not live without a "romantic" fire.
>
> Marmot
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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