[pct-l] Stoves are now OK to use in parts of Angeles NF

[Dennis Washer]

I believe line 3 specifically allows use of stoves with a valid permit.

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> On Jan 14, 2018, at 14:57, Town Food <pctl at marcusschwartz.com> wrote:
> 
> No, it says "Persons with a California Campfire Permit are *NOT* exempt..."
> 
> -=Marcus
> 
>> On 01/14/2018 11:01 AM, JOSEPH LAFLAMME wrote:
>> Hi Everyone,  Not sure if my prior e-mail made it out on this subject, but I wanted to point out  Paragraph number 3 under persons exempt from the Order and the second sentence which says that persons with a valid California Campfire Permit may use a portable stove using gas, jellied petroleum or pressurized liquid fuel.
>> Does that resolve the issue that certain stove can be used anywhere in Angeles National Forest?
>> Snake Charmer
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>> Subject: [pct-l] Stoves are now OK to use in parts of Angeles NF
>>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 12:44 PM,  <nathan at bousfield.me> wrote:
>>> Looks like there is a new fire order that allows campfires and stoves in established recreation areas (campfires and stoves are prohibited outside established recreation areas) https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fs.usda.gov%2FInternet%2FFSE_DOCUMENTS%2Ffseprd569060.pdf&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce2870f2b52df43055acc08d55a0015ad%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636513878774270899&sdata=s%2FD4WeQnJFtM8PLNNoEuqDbIxvHhkwVGQrTvXuy%2BWWU%3D&reserved=0
>> Thanks Nathan for this link. I re-posted it here with a different
>> subject line so people will be sure to see it
>> The old "no stoves at all" order was dated 4 Jan
>> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fs.usda.gov%2FInternet%2FFSE_DOCUMENTS%2Ffseprd568359.pdf&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce2870f2b52df43055acc08d55a0015ad%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636513878774270899&sdata=Q9m8jR%2BnjgU8tMxhpA3%2FX0VSWPAulLX2NW5mlxBKn0E%3D&reserved=0
>> This new order (linked to above) supersedes it, dated 12 Jan, and now
>> you can use your stove in an "established recreation area"
>> The sky is no longer falling as long as you cook in those areas.
>> Now back to discussing how PCT Thru Hikers can't be trusted with fire,
>> and the evilness of fire rings, and no-cook meals
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