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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=750124122-17102007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>They only win against those willing to play by the
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> pct-l-bounces@backcountry.net
[mailto:pct-l-bounces@backcountry.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Lars
Nilsson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 17, 2007 3:40 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Greg
Kesselring<BR><B>Cc:</B> pct-l@backcountry.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [pct-l]
Mt. Bikes on the trail<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy">Someday there is going to be an amendment
to the Wilderness Act that could be wide enough to drive a Mack Truck
through. Someone is going to sue for access to wilderness areas using some
form of wheeled vehicle because of the Americans with Disabilities Act.
Some judge will rule in that plaintiff’s favor, and voila, motorized wheel
chairs will be permitted. Of course they will have to be modified to
travel further than a battery will allow and to traverse rough terrain
(wheelchair mounted on a Jeep chassis, capable of the Rubicon
Trail).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy">Rubbish? Tell that to various places
that now have to allow for more than the seeing-eye dog – they have to
accommodate companion animals some doctor has prescribed to some
emotional/mental need of that animal’s human
companion.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy">For the record, I am not advocating
unregulated access by Humvee’s or bicycles. I just think that sometimes if
we in the hiking community are seen as being too strident and unyielding we
might find ourselves being run over by those more vocal and with more access
($$$) with law makers. And at the pace I hike, I’ll probably be the first
speed bump.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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Nilsson</SPAN></FONT></st1:PersonName><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">TrailSnail</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Greg Kesselring
[mailto:gkesselr@whidbey.com] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, October 17, 2007 11:46
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Lars Nilsson</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> pct-l@backcountry.net<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [pct-l] Mt. Bikes on the
trail</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Unless you're able to get Congress to rewrite the
Wilderness Act, there will be no motorized vehicles inside Wilderness
boundaries. And the way the land managers have interpreted the Wilderness
Act, that also means no trail bikes. <BR><BR>I am a firm believer in, and
supporter of, wilderness as defined by the act. I believe we need to have
some lands set aside where we have no machines. The amount of land that's
preserved in this way is a tiny fraction of the total land that is this
country. If you want to see these lands, you're free to walk in like
everyone else. If you want to drive everywhere, all National Parks are
driveable, most National Forest Land and BLM land is driveable, State Park lands
are driveable. The vast amount of land that you can see from a car or
bicycle or motorcycle or trail bike far exceeds the amount of land that you have
to walk to be able to see and enjoy.<BR><BR>Wilderness Areas are the exception
rather than the rule. There's very little Wilderness left out there.
I hope and pray that we will always have the good sense to keep these lands
wild, and that means free from machines. You want to see what's in there,
you can walk in like the rest of us. You don't want to walk, then
you have 99.99 percent of the country open to your vehicle of
choice.<BR><BR>Greg<BR><BR>==================================================<BR><BR><st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Lars Nilsson</st1:PersonName> wrote: <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><U1:SMARTTAGTYPE
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name="place"
namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></U1:SMARTTAGTYPE></U1:SMARTTAGTYPE>“There's
an assault brewing on the parks here. The ORV and mountain bike crowd are trying
to get the Mill Creek Addition to Del Norte Coast Redwoods SP opened to them. Do
any of you have pictures of trail damage caused by ORVs and mt. bikes,
particularly in far northern <st1:State w:st="on">California</st1:State> and
southern <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Oregon</st1:place></st1:State> -- PCT or trails
west.”<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">I hike, but my sons
bike. They are courteous and stay mainly on fire roads but do enjoy single
track riding as well. They resent the outright banning of bikes on certain
trails. There are “bad apples” in all groups. There are wannabee
ultralight backpackers who allow their alcohol stoves to blow over in wind and
start fires, causing far more damage than fat tires. There are hikers who
insist they are “stealthy” enough that bears will never find their food and so
they don’t need those pesky, heavy bear cans. Too few of us truly practice
“leave NO trace;” do we ban backpackers or demand personal responsibility and
concern/respect for the back country from all who
enter?<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">I am not suggesting that we
pave the trails or put up neon signs, but there should be some compromise that
allows more people to enjoy the land in their own way. Woody Guthrie sang
“this land was made for you and me”. As hikers we recognize HYOH to mean
that for some the fastest wins as does the last one to <st1:country-region
u2:st="on"><st1:place u2:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Canada</st1:place></st1:country-region></st1:place></st1:country-region>
(assuming Campo is your trailhead). </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P><U1:P></U1:P>
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color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Rounded MT Bold'">Lars
Nilsson</SPAN></FONT></st1:PersonName><U1:P></U1:P><o:p></o:p></P>
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