<DIV>If history with the evacuation and trail closures is consistent ---- the powers to be will allow thru hikers . Specifically in the fires last year on the North side of Rt 10 in section C (white water) made an exception for thru hikers. BUT ....... this fire was very different in evacuations and closures than in O3. In 03 the entire forest was closed until the first snow while this time it was only weeks.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This is how it reads on the SB NF website:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: 700">PCT - BLM Whitewater Area</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: 400"> Closure does not include PCT through hikers</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: 400"></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: 400">&</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: 400"></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: 400"> <LI><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: 700">Pacific Crest Trail</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: 400"> - </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: 700">Big Bear Area</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: 400">- The PCT will remain closed from the 3N16/Holcomb Creek crossing on the west side (approx. 2 miles northeast of Crab Flats), to 2N09 (Polique Canyon Rd.) . Little Bear Springs trail camp is closed to public use, </SPAN>due to Butler 2 Fire.<FONT color=#ff0000><B> </B></FONT>A PCT trail reroute is being developed. </LI> <div><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: 400"><BR></SPAN></div></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: 400"><STRONG></STRONG></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: 400"></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV>SB<BR><BR><B><I>"Donna \"L-Rod\" Saufley" <dsaufley@sprynet.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <STYLE>body{font-family: Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:9pt;background-color: #ffffff;color: black;}</STYLE> <META
content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16544" name=GENERATOR> <DIV>I forgot to mention that there is, and has been, a several mile stretch closed in the Angeles for the yellow-legged frog. Hikers have been road-walking Hwy 2 to the Burkhart trail where you can get back on the PCT. Hopefully there will be similar re-routes in place for other apparent closures that will allow 2008 thru-hikers a chance. </DIV> <DIV>L-Rod<BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: "Donna \"L-Rod\" Saufley" <DSAUFLEY@SPRYNET.COM><BR>Sent: Nov 17, 2007 7:55 AM <BR>To: Slyatpct@aol.com, pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net <BR>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Some So. Cal Forest Closures to Remain through November 2008 <BR><BR><ZZZHEAD> <STYLE>body{font-family: Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:9pt;background-color: #ffffff;color: black;}</STYLE> <ZZZMETA content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16544"
name="GENERATOR"></ZZZHEAD><ZZZBODY id=compText> <DIV>We've been frantically searching the maps and websites provided. It would appear that the Angeles and Las Padres closures do NOT affect the PCT. The San Bernardino FS website has not been updated (still dated October 5). That said, it currently states:</DIV> <LI><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: 700">Pacific Crest Trail</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: 400"> - </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: 700">Big Bear Area</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: 400">- The PCT will remain closed from the 3N16/Holcomb Creek crossing on the west side (approx. 2 miles northeast of Crab Flats), to 2N09 (Polique Canyon Rd.) . Little Bear Springs trail camp is closed to public use, </SPAN>due to Butler 2 Fire.<FONT color=#ff0000><B> </B></FONT>A PCT trail reroute is being developed. <DIV>Likewise, the links provided for the Cleveland do not show PCT closures, but a trip to their site (also not updated) still shows the Hauser
Canyon area (start of Section A) as closed. Whether it is to remain closed through November 2008 is unclear from the information provided.<BR><BR>L-Rod<BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Slyatpct@aol.com <BR>Sent: Nov 17, 2007 7:41 AM <BR>To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net <BR>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Some So. Cal Forest Closures to Remain through November 2008 <BR><BR><ZZZHTML><ZZZHEAD><ZZZMETA content="text/html; charset=US-ASCII" http-equiv="Content-Type"><ZZZMETA content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16544" name="GENERATOR"></ZZZHEAD><ZZZBODY id=role_body style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" bottomMargin="7" leftMargin="7" topMargin="7" rightMargin="7"><FONT id=role_document face=Arial color=#000000 size=2> <DIV> <DIV>dsaufley@sprynet.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 10px; MARGIN-LEFT: 10px"><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"
face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Portions of the Angeles, Cleveland, Los Padres and San Bernardino forests will be given a year or longer to recover from fires.<BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>-------------------------------------</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Do any of these areas affect the PCT. Will the trail be open?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Sly</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR> <DIV><FONT style="FONT: 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF; COLOR: black"> <HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px"> See what's new at <A title=http://www.aol.com?NCID=AOLCMP00300000001170 href="http://www.aol.com/?NCID=AOLCMP00300000001170" target=_blank>AOL.com</A> and <A title=http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=AOLCMP00300000001169 href="http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=AOLCMP00300000001169" target=_blank>Make AOL Your Homepage</A>.</FONT></DIV></ZZZBODY></ZZZHTML></BLOCKQUOTE></ZZZBODY></LI></BLOCKQUOTE>_______________________________________________<BR>Pct-l mailing
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