<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">Thanks to you both..that helps... just making sure that I am close in my assumptions.. :)</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">----- Original Message ----<BR>From: Dena Van Derveer <pikahiker@gmail.com><BR>To: V Hurst <vjl_47@yahoo.com>; pct-l@backcountry.net<BR>Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 8:58:25 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [pct-l] burned areas<BR><BR>De-lurking for a moment to echo everything Pieces said, with one added<BR>comment: not everything burns. Hiked in north Yosemite last fall<BR>through an "active burn" (with ranger warnings to "feel the ground for<BR>heat") and had visions of complete, blackened devastation. I was<BR>thinking nuclear wasteland, but t wasn't that way at all. I'd assume<BR>that's the case with other fire areas, too.<BR><BR>You've probably all see photos where one house is left standing amid<BR>the ruins of a neighborhood. Same thing happens in the wilderness --<BR>there are islands of grass, trees, shrubs, that look like a big fire<BR>never happened
there.<BR><BR>So, while getting dirty from hiking through the soot and ash, it *was*<BR>possible find relatively clean places to camp free of burned trees<BR>threatening blowdowns.<BR><BR>Bottom line: I wouldn't hesitate to hike in a recently burned area.<BR>There's a strange, eerie beauty about a landscape that's poised to<BR>come back to life.<BR>--Pika<BR><BR>On Nov 17, 2007 1:14 PM, Phil Baily <<A href="mailto:pbaily@webuniverse.net" ymailto="mailto:pbaily@webuniverse.net">pbaily@webuniverse.net</A>> wrote:<BR>><BR>> My experience has been that there is no significant change in available<BR>> water, there is less cover from the sun, and there are dead black bare trees<BR>> and shrubs. In freshly burned areas there will be black ash that may blow<BR>> up, but you can count on at least getting your feet/shoes coated with ash.<BR>> There also may be more blowdowns than usual because dead roots don't hold<BR>> very well.
That also depends upon wind strengths this winter. Burns more<BR>> than 2 or 3 years old usually have no ash, significant low height green<BR>> recovery growth and black dead tree trunks. At this point, the only planning<BR>> change I would recommend is to avoid camping in freshly burned areas.<BR>> Trails may be rerouted but they seem to not be rerouted in most cases.<BR>><BR>> Pieces<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> At 10:47 AM 11/17/07, V Hurst wrote:<BR>><BR>> Ok so I'm such a newbie that I guess I need to ask this...the burned areas<BR>> mean that there will be less water? or less cover during the day or just<BR>> black burned areas? Sorry may be a silly question but thats how I learn..<BR>> :)What does this do as far as planning goes? Will the trail be rerouted to<BR>> let it recover?<BR>><BR>> thanks<BR>> vera<BR>><BR>><BR>> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your
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