Paul-<br>Thanks for your informative response. Yes, you're right of course. Hiking in the WM Flight would be stifling!!!! Still, up in the Great White North, (when the white is actually wetter than white), it seems like you'd need rain gear to cover the jacket in camp on frequent occasions. Maybe someone that has hiked in all that cold and wet can give some insight. I had a pretty good setup on the AT and I don't remember ever being cold. But the dynamics have changed with all the new LW or ULW gear. Back then it was: expedition weight long johns, The North Face Polartec (fleece?) jacket and Marmot rain gear. A great combo all the way around, but too heavy by todays standards. That whole layering idea is key. I'm actually more concerned with being cold and/or soaked when trying to sleep. I have never used down anything for hiking, but keep telling myself this ain't the AT!!! (As so often repeated by
PCTers). I just want to keep whatever down I carry, dry!!! Maybe my planned purchase of "Icebreakers" merino wool long johns will be the "security blanket" I'm looking for!<br><br>Thanks again.<br>Wheeew<br><br><b><i>paulcaccamo@sbcglobal.net</i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <meta content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16587" name="GENERATOR"> <style></style> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">I had a very similar setup to yours for my 2007 attempted thru (call me a long section hiker). A Marmot Hydrogen +30, Driclime Windshirt, WM Flight Jacket, rain gear.</font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">I carried everything the whole way (1600 miles) including SoCal desert. I cannot speak for anyone other than myself, but I *never* wore the Flight Jacket whilst hiking, it is simply too warm,
even in cold conditions. The Driclime under your raingear will provide a good measure of insulation on the move, I think even the coldest hiker would be sweating up a storm after a half mile in a Flight Jacket (plus your Pillsbury Dough Boy comment is a real danger!)</font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">In fact I rarely used the Flight Jacket except as a top-notch pillow and as a boost to my sleeping bag on the sub 25 degree nights.....but on the occasions when I did need insulation in camp, and the Driclime was not enough, well, then it was worth its eleven ounces in gold. I kept both the jacket and my sleeping bag in a trash compacter bag and they never got wet. </font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Further caveats.....I have yet to hike the two wet states (that is next summer's section hike) so the conditions may warrant a different strategy. But I think even in a cold rainstorm in WA I would not be wearing the down
jacket while hiking.</font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">I have no experience with the other jacket you mentioned, but you can't go wrong with a Flight jacket if you're set on down.</font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>_______________________________________________<br>Pct-l mailing list<br>Pct-l@backcountry.net<br>To unsubscribe or change list options (digest, etc):<br>http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l<br></blockquote><br><p> 
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