<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><div>People like to make a big deal about these caches, as I can see from the last fifty water cache messages on here. :P But really, who is it hurting? If those empties are tied together then I don't see a problem... and if they aren't tied together, the problem isn't the water cache itself, it's the lack of organization.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>If you don't like using water caches because it takes some perceived (and I assure you, it's a value of perception) purity from your hike, don't use them. If you think people are starting to count on them as a sure-thing, well, they're going to learn that's not the case eventually. On the other hand, plenty of people are using these to make what would be an uncomfortable stretch into a comfortable stretch, starting with enough water to get across (but thirsty) without a cache and then using the cache as a luxury when they do come across it. Why ruin it for these people, doing it right, just because you're concerned about purity or less scrupulous hikers?</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>I say keep them how they are until someone in the park service says otherwise. People will do what they will do and this situation will sort itself out.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><br><div><div>On Jan 1, 2008, at 2:14 PM, <a href="mailto:Slyatpct@aol.com">Slyatpct@aol.com</a> wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><div id="role_body" bottommargin="7" leftmargin="7" topmargin="7" rightmargin="7" style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; "><font id="role_document" face="Arial" color="#000000" size="3"><div><div>In a message dated 12/28/2007 9:38:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, <a href="mailto:hikin_steve@yahoo.com">hikin_steve@yahoo.com</a> writes:</div><blockquote style="padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 10px; "><font face="Arial" color="#000000" size="2" style="background-color: transparent; "><div><a title="http://postholer.com/journal/viewJournal.php?jtype=photo&entry_id=641&photo_id=681" href="http://postholer.com/journal/viewJournal.php?jtype=photo&entry_id=641&photo_id=681">http://postholer.com/journal/viewJournal.php?jtype=photo&entry_id=641&photo_id=681</a></div><div> </div><div>This is a photo from Len Roughgarden (2007 thru-hiker) at about mile 87, somewhere between Warner Springs and Mt. Laguna, showing all the empty water bottles. What an mess!</div></font></blockquote></div><div></div><div>-----------------------------------</div><div> </div><div>Yeah but not as messy as a cattle fouled source. At least this can be cleaned up and the empties appeared to be tied together so they don't fly off..</div><div> </div><div>Sly</div></font><br><br><br><div><font style="color: black; font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal ARIAL, SAN-SERIF; "><hr style="margin-top: 10px; ">See AOL's <a title="http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004" href="http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004" target="_blank">top rated recipes</a> and <a title="http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aoltop00030000000003" href="http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aoltop00030000000003" target="_blank">easy ways to stay in shape</a> for winter.</font></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>Pct-l mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Pct-l@backcountry.net">Pct-l@backcountry.net</a><br>To unsubscribe or change list options (digest, etc):<br><a href="http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l">http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l</a><br></blockquote><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#144FAE"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></font></div></div></div></body></html>