<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Notably they also make non-alcohol sanitary wipes. I know when I was at basic at Ft. Knox that's all they allowed us to buy (some crazy private had tried drinking the squeezings from the alcohol wipes). Perhaps those concerned about dry skin/irritated membranes should consider those instead. :P</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><br><div><div>On Jan 3, 2008, at 3:45 PM, <a href="mailto:jeff.singewald@comcast.net">jeff.singewald@comcast.net</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div><div>This whole discussion of alcohol wipes vs baby wipes is way more facinating than that crazy debate over water caches! I know that my backside will benefiit from hearing more on this discussion. Is there any chance the water cache providers could place one of these alcohol dispensers at the water caches? This way, even those that are opposed to the water caches would have yet another reason to stop by these oasises.</div><div> </div><blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; ">-------------- Original message --------------<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>From: g l <<a href="mailto:gailpl2003@yahoo.com">gailpl2003@yahoo.com</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>They do have alcohol dispensers. Hands are not mucous membranes. And the alcohol gives me raging headaches after several uses. Soap and water is better. In 25 years I have never seen an alcohol bath given in a hospital. Alcohol is absorbed thru the skin and enters the bloodstream. In neonatal intensive care units, it is forbidden to use alcohol wipes on the babies skin, for obvious reasons. Any research on the net of the health hazards of using isopropyl alcohol will enlighten the curious mind. ETOH (ethanol) is the kind we drink. I think drinking rubbing alcohol will cause you to go blind, maybe kill you....other fun stuff.<br><br>Anyway, I try to limit my responses on any give topic, to two. So I'm done! Just wanted to give anoth er per spective.<br><br>Wheeew<br><br><b><i>Bill & Cathy <<a href="mailto:tahoe.cat@verizon.net">tahoe.cat@verizon.net</a>></i></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; "><div><font face="Arial" size="2">Do they still give Alcohol baths in hospitals? Where I work, they have Alcohol dispensers all over the place, for your hands. Ground Pounder Bill</font></div><blockquote style="padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; margin-right: 0px; "><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; ">----- Original Message -----</div><div style="background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; background-position: 0% 50%; "><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="gailpl2003@yahoo.com" href="mailto:gailpl2003@yahoo.com">g l</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="meta474@gmail.com" href="mailto:meta474@gmail.com">Patrick Beggan</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="pct-l@backcountry.net" href="mailto:pct-l@backcountry.net">PCT</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, January 03, 2008 11:23 AM</div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [pct-l] Baby Wipes</div><div><br></div>This is not true. At very minimum, alcohol is very drying to the skin. There is also some question as to carcinogenicity, etc. Research before use. I believe Baby Wipes would be ok, alcohol wipes...nope!<br><br>Intensive care nurse and registered respiratory therapist x 25 years. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>Wheeew<br><br><b><i>Patrick Beggan <<a href="mailto:meta474@gmail.com">meta474@gmail.com</a>></i></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; "><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><div>Well, everyone is different, but alcohol wipes on your bare skin don't really harm anything (I have pretty extensive medical experience, although I'm no doctor, I'm just a medic). I mean, frequency is an issue here -- if you're wiping down with alcohol wipes every twenty minutes then you're probably going to see some irritation. Its my experience that giving yourself a wipe-down with an alcohol wipe every other day or so helps keep infection at bay as well as help prevent a whole set of skin ailments.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Of course, it should note that my skin, uhh, "hydrates" at a rapid pace. That is, I am very greasy. :P</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><br><div><div>On Jan 3, 2008, at 6:11 AM, g l wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Folks, Please do NOT use alcohol wipes on your skin.....especially on your more "sensitive" areas. Isopropyl alcohol itself is extremely irritating to the skin and particularly the mucous membranes. And guess what your.......exit area is composed of???? Key-rect!!!! Mucous membranes. H20 if you have it, is your best bet.....along with a gentle, non-rinse soap perhaps. Or just stink! We all smell alike out there anyway, and we cancel each other out. And the flat-landers??? Heck with em if they can't take a joke! Just say NO to ETOH!!! (Other than the drinkin' kind, perhaps.)</div><div> </div><div>Wheeew<br><br><b><i>Hiker97 <<a href="mailto:hiker97@aol.com">hiker97@aol.com</a>></i></b> wrote:</div><blockquote class="replbq" style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; "><div><a href="mailto:jolson@olc.edu">jolson@olc.edu</a> writes: All kidding aside, - , alcohol wipes kept rashes and skin irritations of any sort from developing. It wasn't til I was 40 that I had to deal with this. Now it's a fact of life that I "wipe down" before putting on the long underwear and diving under the quilt for a dry, safe nights sleep... It's part of being able to hike week after week, a maintenance item.... Gotta keep the nether regions clean and dry...</div><div>--------------------------------</div><div>Switchback replies: I have used alcohol wipes for years along with TP. I also carry hand sanitizer gel. Out on the trail I try to be not only clean, but beyond that. I think this protects you from getting sick and other irritations too. For me going to bed clean at night makes for a more restful sleep. I carry my toilet articles in a quart ZipLock bag. 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