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oh, I took the comment about water caches and alcohol wipes as a joke
that had nothing to do with the "bad behavior" types that the trail
angels were referring to.<br>
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Which brings up another point: I think if we had alcohol caches and
water wipes, everything would be okay.<br>
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Greg<br>
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<div>Yes, but the two discussions that were referenced never broke
down into that sort of thing. I was part of the alcohol wipes one and I
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<div>On Jan 5, 2008, at 11:02 AM, Greg Kesselring wrote:</div>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">Well, there's debating in a
civilized way where the participants discuss the ISSUES and keep their
discussion on the issues. And then there's debating in a rude and
disrespectful way where the participants resort to name calling and
other ways of attacking the PERSON, a.k.a. character assassination,
basically resorting to this kind of logic: Because you don't see it my
way, you must be an _______ (fill in the blank here with the most
derisive name you can think of.) The latter way of "debating" is
consider by many to be rude behavior.<br>
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<pre wrap="">Yes, I think its because we like to have debates on here that people
are rude.
you know, if we're rude and we only have two debates... Man, I bet
those presidential candidates act like SAVAGES.
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<pre wrap="">Kim,
I trust your confidence and faith is genuine, but keep in mind, each
year, we all share the same feeling, our thru-hiker family will be
grateful and charming. I know I felt that way in 2006 and for the
most part it was. However, if you go back in the listserve archives
you would think that the 2006 crowd had more than its share of "bad
apples".
My guess is that less than 25% of the class of 2008 even knows about
this list-serve so it is difficult to really identify the behavior
of a group as a whole based on what we see on this list serve.
I hope you are right, however it seems that as more and more people
come to hike this trail, more and more reports of "bad apples" are
reported. It seems as though over the years there has developed a
stronger "sense of entitlement" amongst the thru-hiker crowd.
Still haven't figured out why this true, but I am sure it has
something to do with either alcohol wipes or water caches (tic).
I send my best wishes for an incredible adventure and hope to meet
many of the 2008 crowd at ADZ or along the trail in NorCal.
Elevator - PCT2006
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I have the up most confidence (faith) that all the '08 hikers will
be very great full and charming. I know that I am amazed at the
spirit of all the trail angels that help out perfect strangers. I
know i will be on the trial next year and cant wait to be surrounded
by all this generosity.
again thank you
Kim
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From: "greg jacobs" <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Lets hope the 08 group respects the trail angles who are going to
open there homes and property to us this comming season, thanks to
all of you guys in advance and cya on the trail
Greg
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