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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>VVR is an interesting place and I’d
say definitely worth a visit. With regard to the mudhole, they were
draining both <st1:City w:st="on">Florence</st1:City> and <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName
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last year around August or September for some kind of dam maintenance. I don’t
know what the expectation is for the coming season.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The eclectic camp at VVR is a lively place
in season with a convergence of fishermen, intrepid four-wheelers, campers, JMT
south bounders, and nobo PCTers. I really enjoyed the boat ride to and
from. The food was excellent and reasonably priced for a remote location,
and the store was stocked with many hiker-type items. Everything single thing there
is hauled in by the proprietor and crew many miles on a rough mountain road, so
everything is a precious and limited commodity for which they rightfully
charge. Consequently, hikers have found that by the time they add up
their food, beer, phone calls, laundry, etc. charges, they have a bit of a
tab. Keep in mind that most hikers are on a limited budget, and paying up
for anything tends to be painful to them and a source of complaint. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I sent my resupply box to Muir Trail Ranch
(so I could carry seven days of food instead of nine) and then stopped at VVR.
They’re extremely nice folks at MTR, and there was good stuff in
their hiker box. They are more set up for their dude ranch group activities
than for the needs of thru-hikers, but it was worth the short side-trip to go
there. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hope that helps.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>L-Rod<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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pct-l-bounces@backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces@backcountry.net] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Robert W. Freed<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 08, 2008
10:47 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> pct-l@backcountry.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [pct-l] VVR --
2007ers, should I avoid in 2008?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I spent a night there in early June and found it great. One of the best
steaks I think I have ever had. Of course after a couple hundred trail miles
everything tastes good. Showers, laundry, food, beer and a
free tent cabin if there is room. Bears a plenty at night but with food
lockers and ear plugs I never noticed them.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> On the other hand, on the way there I heard horror
stories about VVR. Over crowded, out of control bears, the mud hole
that used to be Lake Thomas A. Edison, etc... But I had a good time and plan to
stop there in '08.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Robert<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>>>>>>>>>Patrick Beggan <<a
href="mailto:meta474@gmail.com">meta474@gmail.com</a>>
Wrote:>>>>>>>>><br>
I've been reading Yogi's guidebook and also reading around the <br>
internet and it seems that since 2003 VVR has developed a bad <br>
reputation. Have they gotten a handle on things in 2007, or was it <br>
just as bad as 06/05/04?<br>
<br>
I'd like to stop in there but I'll avoid it and use Muir Trail Ranch <br>
or something, if necessary.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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