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<DIV><FONT size=2>Donna was right. They told us that work was being done on the
dam in June of 2007. The lake so low we got a ride from the ferry landing to the
resort.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>I don't think Lake Edison is involved, but in this area they
pump the water back up the hill at night (using excess power capacity) to
generate more power the next day. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Ken</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=robert@engravingpros.com
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 08, 2008 12:49
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [pct-l] VVR -- 2007ers,
should I avoid in 2008?</DIV>
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<DIV>They were using the lakes to generate power. Low rain fall last winter
plus high summer demands equals empty lakes.</DIV>
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<DIV>Robert<BR><BR><B><I>Donna Saufley <<A
href="mailto:dsaufley@sprynet.com">dsaufley@sprynet.com</A>></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">VVR is an
interesting place and I’d say definitely worth a visit. With regard to
the mudhole, they were draining both <st1:City w:st="on">Florence</st1:City>
and <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Edison</st1:PlaceName>
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August or September for some kind of dam maintenance. I don’t know what the
expectation is for the coming season.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The eclectic camp
at VVR is a lively place in season with a convergence of fishermen, intrepid
four-wheelers, campers, JMT south bounders, and nobo PCTers. I really
enjoyed the boat ride to and from. The food was excellent and
reasonably priced for a remote location, and the store was stocked with many
hiker-type items. Everything single thing there is hauled in by the
proprietor and crew many miles on a rough mountain road, so everything is a
precious and limited commodity for which they rightfully charge.
Consequently, hikers have found that by the time they add up their food,
beer, phone calls, laundry, etc. charges, they have a bit of a tab.
Keep in mind that most hikers are on a limited budget, and paying up for
anything tends to be painful to them and a source of complaint.
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I sent my resupply
box to Muir Trail Ranch (so I could carry seven days of food instead of
nine) and then stopped at VVR. They’re extremely nice folks at
MTR, and there was good stuff in their hiker box. They are more set up
for their dude ranch group activities than for the needs of thru-hikers, but
it was worth the short side-trip to go there.
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hope that
helps.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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pct-l-bounces@backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces@backcountry.net]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Robert W.
Freed<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday,
January 08, 2008 10:47 AM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> pct-l@backcountry.net<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [pct-l] VVR -- 2007ers,
should I avoid in 2008?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I spent a night there in early June and found it
great. One of the best steaks I think I have ever had. Of course after a
couple hundred trail miles everything tastes good. Showers, laundry, food,
beer and a free tent cabin if there is room. Bears a plenty
at night but with food lockers and ear plugs I never noticed
them.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> On the other hand, on the way there I heard
horror stories about VVR. Over crowded, out of control bears, the
mud hole that used to be Lake Thomas A. Edison, etc... But I had a good time
and plan to stop there in '08.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">>>>>>>>>Patrick Beggan
<<A href="mailto:meta474@gmail.com">meta474@gmail.com</A>>
Wrote:>>>>>>>>><BR>I've been reading Yogi's
guidebook and also reading around the <BR>internet and it seems that
since 2003 VVR has developed a bad <BR>reputation. Have they gotten a
handle on things in 2007, or was it <BR>just as bad as
06/05/04?<BR><BR>I'd like to stop in there but I'll avoid it and use Muir
Trail Ranch <BR>or something, if
necessary.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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