You bring up good points Steel-Eye. I was concerned about carrying "all things down" on my hike. I was going to post a question regarding this same issue. Here it is: If I have serious Capilene long johns, a long sleeve shirt, DriClime wind shirt and rain gear, do I really need a down jacket too??? Or any other jacket for that matter???<br><br>Wheeew<br><br><b><i>Steel-Eye <chelin@teleport.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <meta content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16587" name="GENERATOR"> <style></style> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;">Good morning, Moondog,</div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <o:p></o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;">I haven’t found the PCT to be particularly cold in the hiking
season.<span style=""> </span>Frost in the morning and occasional light snowfall aren’t uncommon, but that’s nothing for an active hiker.<span style=""> </span>All I use is: 1) a poly tee shirt, 2) a 200-weight, pull-over fleece shirt/jacket, and 3) a thin, hooded windshirt.<span style=""> </span>The jacket is an off-brand that I bought on sale for about $10. and it weighs 10.5 oz.<span style=""> </span>The GoLite Ether windshirt weighs 3.0 oz.<span style=""> </span>Wearing both, I’m comfortable until I warm up on the trail.<span style=""> </span>Soon, first the wind shirt comes off, then later the fleece.<span style=""> </span>During a break the windshirt goes back on.<span style=""> </span>Examples of that can be seen at: </div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><a href="http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye">http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye</a> on the entries for 5 & 6
June, except in that on the 6th the windshirt was a Marmot rather than the GoLite.<span style=""> </span>I couldn’t do that with a Flight Jacket.<span style=""> </span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <o:p></o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;">I’d love to have a Flight Jacket, and several times I’ve come close to buying one since it weighs about the same as my fleece alone, but for me it would be too warm and I couldn’t get the same ventilation when layering.<span style=""> </span>Besides, the Flight Jacket costs over $210. more than the cheap-o fleece.</div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <o:p></o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;">I have three down jackets by other manufacturers, but in the more chronically wet areas …. like where I live in the Northwest …. they are usually too warm and they seem to get sopped
around the shoulders under rain gear.<span style=""> </span>The fleece performs much better for me under those circumstances.</div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <o:p></o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';">I have several vests, both fleece and down, but I don’t often take them on the trail.<span style=""> </span>My problem:<span style=""> </span>With advanced years I notice the cold on my arms more than I used to, so I like long sleeves.</span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font face="Arial" size="2"> </font><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><font face="Times New Roman"
size="3">Steel-Eye</font></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"></font> </font></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><font size="3"><font face="Arial" size="2"><o:p></o:p></font></font> </font></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman">^^^^^^^^^^<span style=""> </span>Serious hikers gather at:<span style=""> </span></font></font><a href="http://www.aldhawest.org/"><span style="color: purple;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">http://www.aldhawest.org/</font></span></a><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"> ^^^^^^^^^^</font></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"></div></span> <div></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
'Times New Roman';"></span> </div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"></span>----- Original Message ----- </div></div> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;"> <div style="background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial; font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>From:</b> <a title="davidalexanderstewart@gmail.com" href="mailto:davidalexanderstewart@gmail.com">David Stewart</a> </div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none;
font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title="pct-l@backcountry.net" href="mailto:pct-l@backcountry.net">pct-l@backcountry.net</a> </div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 13, 2008 4:59 AM</div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> [pct-l] clothing question</div> <div><br></div> <div>I am having some trouble deciding about an insulating layer. Everyone raves about the WM Flight Jacket. I have no doubts that that sucker is nice and warm. But I am a warm sleeper and generally warm all the time. I hardly ever use a 2nd layer while hiking, unless it is cold and raining. </div> <div> </div> <div>I will have two baselyer
shirts with me, Marmot Precip Jacket and a TNF Windstopper Vest. I am debating to go with the WM Flash vest, or the Flight vest. I could imagine the Flight Jacket being simply too warm, except perhaps in the Sierras (but there is some 2300 other miles of trails to carry the jacket...). </div> <div> </div> <div>Layer up? or is it really that cold?</div> <div> </div> <div>my bag will be the WM Summerlite. </div> <div> </div> <div>one last question to ponder: Is anyone slicker than Tom Brady? seriously.</div> <div> </div> <div>-moondog</div> <div> </div><hr> <div></div>_______________________________________________<br>Pct-l mailing list<br>Pct-l@backcountry.net<br>To unsubscribe or change list options (digest, etc):<br>http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l<br></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br>Pct-l mailing list<br>Pct-l@backcountry.net<br>To unsubscribe or change
list options (digest, etc):<br>http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l<br></blockquote><br><BR><BR>-Wheeew-<br>www.trailjournals.com/wheeew/<br>---->MexiCan----> 2008<p> 
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