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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I&#8217;d imagine, once you&#8217;re past
Mt Laguna, you&#8217;re out of &#8220;illegal territory&#8221;. The checkpoint
just northwest of <st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">Buckman Springs Road</st1:address></st1:Street>
is the last checkpoint an illegal would need to get past.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I remember the area just south of Cibbets
Flat where I saw a lot of discarded clothing and trash which I assume came from
illegals. There are a lot of crisscrossing trails and dirt roads around that
area. Perfect place for a smuggler to pick up illegals. I saw some discarded
items up <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Long</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
 w:st="on">Canyon</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>, but once I got past Mt Laguna, I
didn&#8217;t see any evidence of illegals.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Check out the photo I linked. The guy in
the blue shirt is &#8220;Oscar The Illegal&#8221;. As we hung out at the bottom
of Hauser last ADZPCTKO, this guy was walking from the west along the canyon
and bummed food and water from us hikers. He was trying to get to <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">El Centro</st1:place></st1:City>, asking how
many miles away it was! I tried to tell him he was many day&#8217;s worth of
walking through desert, and that if he&#8217;d follow the PCT north with us, he&#8217;d
be at Morena Reservoir, where there was food and water to be had, but he either
didn&#8217;t understand me, or didn&#8217;t trust me. He kept walking eastward
along the canyon.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> pct-l-bounces@backcountry.net
[mailto:pct-l-bounces@backcountry.net] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Slyatpct@aol.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 15, 2008
8:57 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> gailpl2003@yahoo.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> pct-l@backcountry.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [pct-l] HIDING FROM
ILLEGALS</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Perhaps someone can correct me if I'm
wrong, but I can't recall any PCT hiker being accosted by illegals.&nbsp; A
good spot to hide from them, is a good place for them to hide.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I think once you're past I-10 you're past
the illegal problem area.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>&nbsp;jomike@cot.net writes:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Is there any place to hide your camp from
the &quot;illegals&quot; during the first 20-40 miles or is that whole area
along the trail too exposed???<br>
<br>
Wheeew</span></font><font color=black face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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