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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">Good morning, L-Rod,</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">You most certainly may borrow the term
considering I borrowed it myself. I once had a Canadian business associate
who did not have children .... nor did he want any .... and he referred to them
all as, you guessed it, ".... just a bunch of sniveling, thumb-sucking
whiners!", that, along with several other more explicit, but less repeatable,
descriptions.</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">This could be fair warning to all
you 2008+ visitors to Hiker Heaven:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Someone is at risk of being assigned a more appropriate trail name,
particularly if they complain that their laundry hasn’t been properly pressed
and hangered.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">^^^^^^^^^^<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Join other hikers at:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><A
href="http://www.aldhawest.org/"><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">http://www.aldhawest.org/</SPAN></A>
^^^^^^^^^^</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=dsaufley@sprynet.com href="mailto:dsaufley@sprynet.com">Donna
Saufley</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=chelin@teleport.com
href="mailto:chelin@teleport.com">'Steel-Eye'</A> ; <A
title=gailpl2003@yahoo.com href="mailto:gailpl2003@yahoo.com">'G. Lowe aka
Wheeew'</A> ; <A title=pct-l@backcountry.net
href="mailto:pct-l@backcountry.net">'PCT'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 15, 2008 8:26
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [pct-l] clothing
question</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Steel-Eye
wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">“. . . I realize what a sniveling,
thumb-sucking, whiner I’ve become.”<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">-------------------------<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hey, I resemble that remark!
This is a line that will stay with me. Hope you don’t mind if I borrow
it.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I also think “Thumb-Sucking
Whiner” would be an excellent trail name. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">L-Rod<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <A
href="mailto:pct-l-bounces@backcountry.net">pct-l-bounces@backcountry.net</A>
[mailto:pct-l-bounces@backcountry.net] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On
Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Steel-Eye<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, February 15, 2008 6:47
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> G. Lowe aka Wheeew;
PCT<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [pct-l]
clothing question</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Good morning,
Wheeew,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN lang=EN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">It’s hard to guess what someone else may need for
insulation. As L-Rod mentioned, tolerance to cold is a personal thing,
varying considerably among individuals. Reasons can be physical,
situational, and mental. I think the primary physical attribute in favor
of staying warm is size: A large person may not only have a layer of
subcutaneous fat for insulation, but they would also have a higher percentage
of body mass for their skin surface area. That configuration is not vary
prevalent among long distance hikers. I’ve been told I may have a an
unusually high percentage of residual brown fat, i.e. brown adipose tissue
(BAT), to help keep me warm but, since physiology isn’t my field, I really
don’t know mitochondria from a
hole-in-the-ground.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: #f8fcff"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
lang=EN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Situational differences require a bit of
experience. For most people, garment selection is based upon walk-around
judgment: We put on a coat, go outside for a while, then say if it is, or
isn’t, enough. This neglects the effect of heat production from
activity. One extreme example is an ice fisherman who sits in the cold
all day. The general rule for that situation is, estimate what
insulation is necessary, then double it. On the other extreme, if I
started hiking with “average” insulation it would be too much and I would be
removing layers within 10 minutes. I’m generally warm from hiking all
day, and I crawl into the bag soon after stopping and before I cool off.
The only real use for something warm is early in the morning while I pack my
stuff and for the first 10 minutes on the trail. I object to carrying an
extra pound …. or two, or three …. just to be a bit more comfortable during
that brief period. For times when it’s cold and I’m not active, my
sleeping bag is my fall-back protection. I mentioned that situation in
my TrailJournal entry for 6 Jun 07. It was cold, there was snow on the
ground, and I had wet shoes and socks from fording the previous day, so when I
stopped for a while to wait for another hiker I wrapped my bag around my feet
and legs. That was no big deal; it worked fine, and a heavier coat
wouldn’t have helped much.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN lang=EN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The mental aspect is simple: I just don’t let
myself object to being cold for a while. Whenever I start worry about
being cold I re-read my copy of Jack <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">London</st1:place></st1:City>’s short story, To Build A Fire, and I
realize what a sniveling, thumb-sucking, whiner I’ve
become.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN lang=EN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Steel-Eye</SPAN><o:p></o:p></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN lang=EN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">^^^^^^^^^^ Serious hikers gather at: <A
href="http://www.aldhawest.org/"><FONT color=purple><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">http://www.aldhawest.org/</SPAN></FONT></A>
^^^^^^^^^^<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----- Original Message -----
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV style="font-color: black">
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=gailpl2003@yahoo.com href="mailto:gailpl2003@yahoo.com">G. Lowe aka
Wheeew</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=chelin@teleport.com href="mailto:chelin@teleport.com">Steel-Eye</A> ;
<A title=pct-l@backcountry.net href="mailto:pct-l@backcountry.net">PCT</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Monday,
January 14, 2008 3:36 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re:
[pct-l] clothing question<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">You bring up good points Steel-Eye. I was
concerned about carrying "all things down" on my hike. I was going to
post a question regarding this same issue. Here it is: If I have
serious Capilene long johns, a long sleeve shirt, DriClime wind shirt and
rain gear, do I really need a down jacket too??? Or any other jacket
for that matter???<BR><BR>Wheeew<BR><BR><B><I><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">Steel-Eye <<A
href="mailto:chelin@teleport.com">chelin@teleport.com</A>></SPAN></I></B>
wrote: <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Good morning,
Moondog,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I haven’t found the PCT to be particularly cold in
the hiking season. Frost in the morning and occasional light snowfall
aren’t uncommon, but that’s nothing for an active hiker. All I use is:
1) a poly tee shirt, 2) a 200-weight, pull-over fleece shirt/jacket, and 3)
a thin, hooded windshirt. The jacket is an off-brand that I bought on
sale for about $10. and it weighs 10.5 oz. The GoLite Ether windshirt
weighs 3.0 oz. Wearing both, I’m comfortable until I warm up on the
trail. Soon, first the wind shirt comes off, then later the
fleece. During a break the windshirt goes back on. Examples of
that can be seen at: <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><A
href="http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye">http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye</A> on
the entries for 5 & 6 June, except in that on the 6th the
windshirt was a Marmot rather than the GoLite. I couldn’t do that with
a Flight Jacket. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I’d love to have a Flight Jacket, and several times
I’ve come close to buying one since it weighs about the same as my fleece
alone, but for me it would be too warm and I couldn’t get the same
ventilation when layering. Besides, the Flight Jacket costs over
$210. more than the cheap-o fleece.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I have three down jackets by other
manufacturers, but in the more chronically wet areas …. like where I live in
the Northwest …. they are usually too warm and they seem to get sopped
around the shoulders under rain gear. The fleece performs much better
for me under those circumstances.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I have several vests, both fleece and down, but I
don’t often take them on the trail. My problem: With advanced
years I notice the cold on my arms more than I used to, so I like long
sleeves.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Steel-Eye<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">^^^^^^^^^^ Serious hikers gather at:
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A
href="http://www.aldhawest.org/"><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=purple
size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: purple; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'">http://www.aldhawest.org/</SPAN></FONT></A></SPAN></FONT>
^^^^^^^^^^<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">----- Original Message -----
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=davidalexanderstewart@gmail.com
href="mailto:davidalexanderstewart@gmail.com">David Stewart</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV style="font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=pct-l@backcountry.net
href="mailto:pct-l@backcountry.net">pct-l@backcountry.net</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV style="font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Sunday, January 13, 2008 4:59 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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[pct-l] clothing question<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I am having some trouble deciding about an
insulating layer. Everyone raves about the WM Flight Jacket. I have no
doubts that that sucker is nice and warm. But I am a warm sleeper and
generally warm all the time. I hardly ever use a 2nd layer while hiking,
unless it is cold and raining. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I will have two baselyer shirts with me, Marmot
Precip Jacket and a TNF Windstopper Vest. I am debating to go with the WM
Flash vest, or the Flight vest. I could imagine the Flight Jacket being
simply too warm, except perhaps in the Sierras (but there is some 2300
other miles of trails to carry the jacket...).
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Layer up? or is it really that
cold?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">my bag will be the WM Summerlite.
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">one last question to ponder: Is anyone slicker
than Tom Brady? seriously.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">-moondog<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR><BR>-Wheeew-<BR>www.trailjournals.com/wheeew/<BR>---->MexiCan---->
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