<div>So I have a goose down quilt on my bed and it's about 3 years old. It's white and has been washed quite a bit thanks to doggie. Anyhoo, a couple weeks ago it got a tear in the fabric from all the washings and I had feathers all over my bedroom. Clearly something had to be done, and done fast.....whattodo, whattodo........I know!!! A large piece of silver duct tape now decorates my quilt! Now THAT'S Nut-Job!!!</div> <div> </div> <div>Wheeew<BR><BR><B><I>"Donna \"L-Rod\" Saufley" <dsaufley@sprynet.com></I></B> wrote:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <STYLE>body{font-family: Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:9pt;background-color: #ffffff;color: black;}</STYLE> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16587" name=GENERATOR> <div>Warning -- the following has nothing to do with the subject line, and is probably only marginally interesting to
a few!</div> <div>Oooohhh!!! I'm sooo glad you mentioned laundry!! I'm very excited about something new I'll be trying this year that one of my former business colleagues recommended based on her experience as a soccer team mom. The apparently make net bags large enough to accommodate the average team uniform (which would be roughly equivalent to the average hiker laundry load) similar to the smaller lingerie bags for delicate things. Using these bags for the hiker laundry would keep the duds separated, ending problems of missing socks clinging to someone else's shirt, and unclaimed items of unknown origins which mysteriously and predictably materialize each season.</div> <div>I was thrilled to get this information as we are always looking for ways to improve the system here at Hiker Heaven. It's all about hiker-hosting innovations. Like Terrie Anderson said in the most recent Walk video, "corporate efficiency" is my
game. Now you all know just what a nut-job I truly am.</div> <div>L-Rod</div> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Steel-Eye <CHELIN@TELEPORT.COM><BR>Sent: Feb 16, 2008 6:09 AM <BR>To: Donna Saufley <DSAUFLEY@SPRYNET.COM>, 'PCT' <PCT-L@BACKCOUNTRY.NET><BR>Subject: The Thumb-Sucking Whiner <BR><BR><ZZZHTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><ZZZHEAD><ZZZMETA content="text/html; charset=windows-1250" http-equiv="Content-Type"><ZZZMETA content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16587" name="GENERATOR"><ZZZ!--[IF !mso]> <STYLE>v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } o\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } w\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } .shape { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } </STYLE>
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font-family:Arial; color:navy;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </STYLE> <ZZZ!--[IF gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" /> </xml><ZZZ![ENDIF]--><ZZZ!--[IF gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext="edit"> <o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><ZZZ![ENDIF]--></ZZZHEAD><ZZZBODY lang=EN-US vLink="blue" link="blue" bgColor="white"><FONT face=Arial size=2> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">Good morning, L-Rod,</SPAN></div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> </div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">You most certainly may borrow the term considering I borrowed it myself. I once had a Canadian business associate who did not have children .... nor did he want any .... and he referred to them all as, you guessed
it, ".... just a bunch of sniveling, thumb-sucking whiners!", that, along with several other more explicit, but less repeatable, descriptions.</SPAN></div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">This could be fair warning to all you 2008+ visitors to Hiker Heaven:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Someone is at risk of being assigned a more appropriate trail name, particularly if they complain that their laundry hasn’t been properly pressed and hangered.</div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></div> <DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">Steel-Eye </SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language:
EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">^^^^^^^^^^<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Join other hikers at:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><A href="http://www.aldhawest.org/"><SPAN style="COLOR: purple">http://www.aldhawest.org/</SPAN></A> ^^^^^^^^^^</SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=dsaufley@sprynet.com href="mailto:dsaufley@sprynet.com">Donna Saufley</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=chelin@teleport.com href="mailto:chelin@teleport.com">'Steel-Eye'</A> ; <A title=gailpl2003@yahoo.com href="mailto:gailpl2003@yahoo.com">'G. Lowe aka Wheeew'</A> ; <A title=pct-l@backcountry.net href="mailto:pct-l@backcountry.net">'PCT'</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 15, 2008 8:26 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [pct-l] clothing question</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV class=Section1> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Steel-Eye wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">“. . . I realize what a sniveling, thumb-sucking, whiner I’ve become.”<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">-------------------------<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hey, I resemble that remark! This is a line that will stay with me. Hope you don’t mind if I borrow
it.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I also think “Thumb-Sucking Whiner” would be an excellent trail name. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">L-Rod<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>
<DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <HR tabIndex=-1 align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <A href="mailto:pct-l-bounces@backcountry.net">pct-l-bounces@backcountry.net</A> [mailto:pct-l-bounces@backcountry.net] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Steel-Eye<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, February 15, 2008 6:47 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> G. Lowe aka Wheeew; PCT<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [pct-l] clothing question</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Good morning, Wheeew,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN lang=EN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">It’s hard to guess what someone else may need for insulation. As L-Rod mentioned, tolerance to cold is a personal thing, varying considerably among individuals. Reasons can be physical, situational, and mental. I think the primary physical attribute in favor of staying warm is size: A large person may not only have a layer of subcutaneous fat for insulation, but they would also have a higher percentage of body mass for their skin surface area. That configuration is not vary prevalent among long
distance hikers. I’ve been told I may have a an unusually high percentage of residual brown fat, i.e. brown adipose tissue (BAT), to help keep me warm but, since physiology isn’t my field, I really don’t know mitochondria from a hole-in-the-ground.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <div style="BACKGROUND: #f8fcff"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN lang=EN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Situational differences require a bit of experience. For most people, garment selection is based upon walk-around judgment: We put on a coat, go outside for a while, then say if it is, or isn’t, enough. This neglects the effect of heat production from activity. One extreme example is an ice fisherman who sits in the cold all day. The general rule for that situation is, estimate what insulation is necessary, then double it. On the other extreme, if I started hiking with “average” insulation it would be too much and I would be removing
layers within 10 minutes. I’m generally warm from hiking all day, and I crawl into the bag soon after stopping and before I cool off. The only real use for something warm is early in the morning while I pack my stuff and for the first 10 minutes on the trail. I object to carrying an extra pound …. or two, or three …. just to be a bit more comfortable during that brief period. For times when it’s cold and I’m not active, my sleeping bag is my fall-back protection. I mentioned that situation in my TrailJournal entry for 6 Jun 07. It was cold, there was snow on the ground, and I had wet shoes and socks from fording the previous day, so when I stopped for a while to wait for another hiker I wrapped my bag around my feet and legs. That was no big deal; it worked fine, and a heavier coat wouldn’t have helped much.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN lang=EN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The mental aspect is simple: I just don’t let myself object to being cold for a while. Whenever I start worry about being cold I re-read my copy of Jack <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 /><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">London</st1:place></st1:City>’s short story, To Build A Fire, and I realize what a sniveling, thumb-sucking, whiner I’ve become.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN lang=EN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Steel-Eye</SPAN><o:p></o:p></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN lang=EN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">^^^^^^^^^^
Serious hikers gather at: <A href="http://www.aldhawest.org/"><FONT color=purple><SPAN style="COLOR: purple">http://www.aldhawest.org/</SPAN></FONT></A> ^^^^^^^^^^<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: 5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV style="font-color: black"> <div class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A title=gailpl2003@yahoo.com href="mailto:gailpl2003@yahoo.com">G. Lowe aka Wheeew</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A title=chelin@teleport.com href="mailto:chelin@teleport.com">Steel-Eye</A> ; <A title=pct-l@backcountry.net href="mailto:pct-l@backcountry.net">PCT</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Monday, January 14, 2008 3:36 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold;
FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re: [pct-l] clothing question<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">You bring up good points Steel-Eye. I was concerned about carrying "all things down" on my hike. I was going to post a question regarding this same issue. Here it is: If I have serious Capilene long johns, a long sleeve shirt, DriClime wind shirt and rain gear, do I really need a down jacket too??? Or any other jacket for that matter???<BR><BR>Wheeew<BR><BR><B><I><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">Steel-Eye <<A href="mailto:chelin@teleport.com">chelin@teleport.com</A>></SPAN></I></B> wrote:
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Good morning, Moondog,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I haven’t found the PCT to be particularly cold in the hiking season. Frost in the morning and occasional light snowfall aren’t uncommon, but that’s nothing for an active hiker. All I use is: 1) a poly tee shirt, 2) a 200-weight, pull-over fleece shirt/jacket, and 3) a thin, hooded windshirt. The jacket is an off-brand that I bought on sale for about $10. and it weighs 10.5 oz. The GoLite Ether windshirt weighs 3.0 oz. Wearing both, I’m comfortable until I warm up on the trail. Soon, first the wind shirt comes
off, then later the fleece. During a break the windshirt goes back on. Examples of that can be seen at: <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><A href="http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye">http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye</A> on the entries for 5 & 6 June, except in that on the 6th the windshirt was a Marmot rather than the GoLite. I couldn’t do that with a Flight Jacket. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I’d love to have a Flight Jacket, and several times I’ve come close to buying one since it weighs about the same as my fleece alone, but for me it would be too warm and I
couldn’t get the same ventilation when layering. Besides, the Flight Jacket costs over $210. more than the cheap-o fleece.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I have three down jackets by other manufacturers, but in the more chronically wet areas …. like where I live in the Northwest …. they are usually too warm and they seem to get sopped around the shoulders under rain gear. The fleece performs much better for me under those circumstances.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I
have several vests, both fleece and down, but I don’t often take them on the trail. My problem: With advanced years I notice the cold on my arms more than I used to, so I like long sleeves.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Steel-Eye<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">^^^^^^^^^^ Serious hikers gather at: </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A href="http://www.aldhawest.org/"><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=purple size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: purple; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'">http://www.aldhawest.org/</SPAN></FONT></A></SPAN></FONT> ^^^^^^^^^^<o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: 5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium
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<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV style="font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"> <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Sunday, January 13, 2008 4:59 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV style="font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"> <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> [pct-l] clothing question<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I am having some trouble
deciding about an insulating layer. Everyone raves about the WM Flight Jacket. I have no doubts that that sucker is nice and warm. But I am a warm sleeper and generally warm all the time. I hardly ever use a 2nd layer while hiking, unless it is cold and raining. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I will have two baselyer shirts with me, Marmot Precip Jacket and a TNF Windstopper Vest. I am debating to go with the WM Flash vest, or the Flight vest. I could imagine the Flight Jacket being simply too warm, except perhaps in the Sierras (but there is some 2300 other miles of trails to carry the jacket...). <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:
12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Layer up? or is it really that cold?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">my bag will be the WM Summerlite. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">one last question to ponder: Is anyone slicker than Tom Brady? seriously.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:
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