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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It doesn’t matter whether you cut
slits or not, the sun is still beating on your head, and you will feel it. Perhaps
you, like Brick and my husband, are very tolerant of heat and don’t mind
this. It simply slays me when I am trying to do a challenging physical
activity (I’ve been known to sit under a bush, panting like an animal). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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from my head when it’s hot. I wear visors rather than hats for sun
protection because of this. In fact, I never wear my bike helmet when
climbing on my mountainbike because I overheat, despite the ample ventilation in
the helmet (I bring it along to wear on descents). But oh, my, sweet, merciful
shade makes such a big difference, even if it’s only partial. It’s
funny how much you come to treasure a spot of shade or a puff of clouds that
obscure the sun and make it stop beating on you.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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create or modify umbrellas here. If you don’t think you’ll
want one, start without it, or bounce it ahead. It may be something you
only want for So Cal, so buying a really cheap one that you doctor up with
mylar creates something you won’t mind throwing away or leaving in a
hiker box.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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siestas during the heat of the day, and hike at night or at least in the cooler
morning and evening hours. Some hikers rig shade shelters out of mylar
(or other materials) using their trekking poles and line to wait out the worst
of the heat. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Patrick Beggan
[mailto:meta474@gmail.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 22, 2008
11:48 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Donna Saufley;
pct-l@backcountry.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [pct-l] Umbrellas</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>So it's a question of ventilation? Why not just cut some slits in the
body of your hat, above the brim? Seems it would be smarter to have the
somewhat lesser coverage of a wide-brimmed hat and hike only in the early
morning and afternoon (thus avoiding most of the bad direct radiation anyway),
sitting out the hottest part of the day in the shade. That's how the Bedouin do
it anyway. Save on weight and discomfort and simply re-arrange your hiking
hours.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'>On Jan 22, 2008, at 2:41 PM, Donna Saufley wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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make everyone different and their hike and preferences unique to them.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Though I haven’t done any desert
sections in the heat and therefore have not had need for an umbrella, if I were
to hike the desert when it’s hot I would consider giving an umbrella (and
hands-free holder) a try. It’s astonishing how much cooler it is in
the shade when the sun is blazing hot. If you’re wearing a hat
only, the sun beats directly on your head, albeit through your hat, and you are
essentially feeling all the heat because it’s directly on you. If
you elevate that boundary, and keep the sun from actually reaching you, you
will not have the sun on your head at all and presumably be much cooler.
And, as Wheeew said, heat can better escape from your head. <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Many hikers start without umbrellas, and
we’ve had fairly large numbers of hikers buying/making/outfitting mylar
umbrellas at Hiker Heaven every season. There must be good reason for it,
and it may be worth experimenting with. <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font
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class=apple-converted-space><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'> </span></font></span><font
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color:black'><a href="mailto:pct-l-bounces@backcountry.net">pct-l-bounces@backcountry.net</a>
[<a href="mailto:pct-l-bounces@backcountry.net">mailto:pct-l-bounces@backcountry.net</a>]<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span></b>Patrick
Beggan<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>Tuesday, January 22, 2008 10:46 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>JOHNNY J FARBER;<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:pct-l@backcountry.net">pct-l@backcountry.net</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>[pct-l] Umbrellas</span></font><font
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>What is this obsession with umbrellas? I
mean, seriously, I'm not being a troll here -- why do so many people like them?
I tried it once and it wasn't any different for me than a wide-brimmed hat and
a good long-sleeve t-shirt but considerably more weight since you generally
need to still carry a hat and a shirt anyway.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Most of the heat in the desert is reflected
from the ground anyway so overhead cover only helps the direct radiation.
Doesn't seem worth it to me.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>We followed the
Jardine method of rubber banding the mylar to the umbrella which worked
great. He recommended using the small rubber bands from an
orthodonist. The wind turned our umbrellas inside out a few times, but
most of time they were lifesavers. Campmor sells a metallic coated
treking umbrella 24.99--spf 50+--this is what we are using this year. <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>JOURNELS---I would
like to know the address of a user friendly journel site. Despite the
fear that all the comments have struck into my heart, I still want to write a
journel of our 2008 trip. Just kidding about the fear--many of the comments
are helpful. Besides I gave up fear (at least I don't let it stop me)
when I fought cancer in 2006. <span class=apple-converted-space> <st1:city u2:st="on"><st1:place u2:st="on"></span><st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Sharon</st1:place></st1:city></st1:place></st1:City><span
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cancer) Farber<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font color=black><span
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