When I did a car tour of the west several summers ago, I'd use my umbrella every time I went to a park that had no shade. (To look at mud pots bubbling up from the earth, geysers, etc). It was a god-send. I don't know how others stood it. And that was just walking around!!<br><br><b><i>Donna Saufley <dsaufley@sprynet.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> Simply stand in the shade on a searingly hot day (with or without hat on),<br>and the reasons for creating constant shade on your head will become<br>immediately apparent to you. Now, weather you want the fuss and weight of<br>the umbrella, and just how tolerant you are to extreme heat, becomes the<br>issue. <br><br>L-Rod<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: pct-l-bounces@backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces@backcountry.net]<br>On Behalf Of Patrick Beggan<br>Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008
11:40 AM<br>To: Greg Kesselring; pct-l@backcountry.net<br>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Umbrellas and desert hear<br><br>Right but how is that different from a wide-brimmed hat? As long as <br>your skin is covered, there's no major difference.<br><br>And trust me, I know all about the desert. :P I'm just wondering why a <br>hat is inferior enough to warrant the extra weight of an umbrella to <br>people who slice up their maps into funny shapes to save a quarter <br>ounce. :P<br><br><br>On Jan 22, 2008, at 2:35 PM, Greg Kesselring wrote:<br><br>> I'm sure there is a lot of heat given off by the desert ground.<br>> However, the radiant heat from direct sunlight adds to that. Having<br>> spent lots of time in the open alpine of the North Cascades, my <br>> guess is<br>> that hiking under direct sunlight adds 20 or 30 degrees to the ambient<br>> temp just in terms of how it feels.<br>><br>> If you're in the hot desert, try standing out in the sunlight.
Then <br>> try<br>> standing in the shade. Which do you think will feel warmer.<br>><br>> The umbrella fellas are just trying to take that shade with them, all<br>> day long.<br>><br>><br>><br>> Patrick Beggan wrote:<br>>> What is this obsession with umbrellas? I mean, seriously, I'm not<br>>> being a troll here -- why do so many people like them? I tried it <br>>> once<br>>> and it wasn't any different for me than a wide-brimmed hat and a good<br>>> long-sleeve t-shirt but considerably more weight since you generally<br>>> need to still carry a hat and a shirt anyway.<br>>><br>>> Most of the heat in the desert is reflected from the ground anyway so<br>>> overhead cover only helps the direct radiation. Doesn't seem worth it<br>>> to me.<br>>><br>>><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Pct-l mailing list<br>>
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