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thanks again, i have extensive off trail experience here in the north east, in winter and summer conditions,fog rain,snow. through thick spruce laden forest. i also have plenty of experience grabbing onto trees to save my arse from falling into oblivion. with your knowledge of the area will i be pulling out all the stops up there? i have 30 years of mountain travel under my belt.<BR>
thanks again<BR><BR>> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:12:24 -0800<BR>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] fuller ridge question<BR>> From: AsABat@4Jeffrey.Net<BR>> To: robohiker@hotmail.com; pct-l@backcountry.net<BR>> <BR>> I should add that in April 2006, two weeks before ADZ, I hiked from Saddle<BR>> Junction to Seven Pines Trail. Navigation was not too difficult, with<BR>> reasonable map and compass skills, until we dropped off the PCT onto Seven<BR>> Pines Trail. Once we hit the bottom of the bowl the trail was impossible<BR>> to find without expert compass skills, and a GPS helped. With sunlight<BR>> fading away because of someone's slow speed (mine), we finally gave up<BR>> trying to stay on the trail and used GPS and compass to beeline out to the<BR>> road. With me was a SAR member, and I have almost 40 years experience.<BR>> <BR>> AsABat<BR>> <BR>> On Wed, February 6, 2008 7:54 am, AsABat wrote:<BR>> > There can be two challenges on Fuller Ridge.<BR>> ><BR>> > The first (which applies to much of the Tahquitz and San Jacinto area) is<BR>> > navigation. On the map cited, you may find deep snow in the bowls such as<BR>> > the one between the Seven Pines and Fuller Ridge trails, and along the PCT<BR>> > due west of Little Round Valley. If no tracks are visible you will spend<BR>> > some time navigating, as the trail undulates a bit in that area. Also note<BR>> > that just because you find tracks does not mean they are going the right<BR>> > way - they could be lost, as happened a couple years ago when one lost PCT<BR>> > hiker followed another lost hiker's tracks to their camp.<BR>> ><BR>> > The second is exposure. Once the PCT crosses to the north side of Fuller<BR>> > Ridge (about 8600 feet), there will be more snow on a steep side slope.<BR>> > Care must be taken here. When snow and ice are present, ice axes are<BR>> > usually advised. Even without snow, take care as fallen leaves may cover<BR>> > icy patches.<BR>> ><BR>> > It is still early to predict conditions, but there's lots of snow right<BR>> > now.<BR>> ><BR>> > AsABat<BR>> ><BR>> > On Wed, February 6, 2008 6:34 am, robo hiker wrote:<BR>> >><BR>> >> i found a nice map of what seems to be a section of fuller ridge. i've<BR>> >> heard that it can be a real challenge with snow on it. can you tell if<BR>> >> any<BR>> >> of those difficult parts are shown on the map i'm providing? i'm used to<BR>> >> snow travel ,and my navagational skills are well very good, i'm thinking<BR>> >> i'll be giving it a go no matter how much snow is on it. any insight<BR>> >> will<BR>> >> be appreciated, thanks<BR>> >><BR>> >> map -> http://www.summitpost.org/images/original/204109.jpg<BR>> ><BR>> > _______________________________________________<BR>> > Pct-l mailing list<BR>> > Pct-l@backcountry.net<BR>> > To unsubscribe or change list options (digest, etc):<BR>> > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l<BR>> ><BR>> <BR><BR><br /><hr />Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! <a href='http://biggestloser.msn.com/' target='_new'>Learn more.</a></body>
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