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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The question I have with all the skipping around
is, what is the amount of time lost from the overall season and what is the
financial cost? If you jump around a lot to have less trail snow, do you have to
hike faster to make up for the time spent hitching or riding the bus? Was it
worth it in the long run to make the jumps and have to hike faster rather than
just hike straight thru and learn how to be safe and enjoy it?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mtnned</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=zaqueltooocool@gmail.com
href="mailto:zaqueltooocool@gmail.com">Andrea Dinsmore</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=ned@mountaineducation.com
href="mailto:ned@mountaineducation.com">Ned Tibbits</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=pct-l@backcountry.net
href="mailto:pct-l@backcountry.net">PCT MailingList</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 01, 2008 5:03
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [pct-l] Trip deadline per
snow</DIV>
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<DIV>There are many ways to do the trail It is not written in stone that you
do it strictly north bound. Depending on weather some go to Kennedy Meadows
and skip north to Manning Park and go south. Would would cover heavy snow in
the Sierras and light snow in the N Cascades. Some skip from the South side of
the Sierras to Cascade Locks (or/wa border) and go north then return to the
locks and go south. Check out past trail journals for various routes. If
weather is really screwed up you may have to take two years to make the whole
hike. </DIV>
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<DIV>PCT MOM</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Ned Tibbits <<A
href="mailto:ned@mountaineducation.com">ned@mountaineducation.com</A>>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>And there you have it! Now back up your
schedule to a start date based on your desired speed, time off trail, zero
days, and leave Campo ready to experience the Pacific Crest Trail,
Sierra snow and all. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mtnned</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A
title=zaqueltooocool@gmail.com href="mailto:zaqueltooocool@gmail.com"
target=_blank>Andrea Dinsmore</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=ned@mountaineducation.com href="mailto:ned@mountaineducation.com"
target=_blank>Ned Tibbits</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=pct-l@backcountry.net
href="mailto:pct-l@backcountry.net" target=_blank>PCT MailingList</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 01, 2008 3:56
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [pct-l] Snow fears and
your choices</DIV>
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<DIV>It all depends on the snow (early??).If you are at
Skykomish (Steven's Pass) by Sept 15-20 the weather should still be
good. Rain not included. It usually rains more of Sept and or snows all
of October. Norms are 10 days from Steven's to Manning Park. Figure a
zero at the Stehekin Bakery. God's law....you must stop at the Bakery. If
you hit Steven's Pass towards the end of Sept the weather is going to be
IFFY. </DIV>
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<DIV>PCT MOM<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Ned Tibbits <<A
href="mailto:ned@mountaineducation.com"
target=_blank>ned@mountaineducation.com</A>> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Excellent Advise! Andrea, what are the
practical deadlines, date-wise, for thru hikers to still be able to
reach Monument 74 without fear of hike-stopping snow?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mtnned</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>For Information on Programs, previous Trips, and Photo
Gallery,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Please visit: <A href="http://www.mountaineducation.com/"
target=_blank>www.mountaineducation.com</A></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A
title=zaqueltooocool@gmail.com href="mailto:zaqueltooocool@gmail.com"
target=_blank>Andrea Dinsmore</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=ned@mountaineducation.com
href="mailto:ned@mountaineducation.com" target=_blank>Ned Tibbits</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=allemande6@yahoo.com
href="mailto:allemande6@yahoo.com" target=_blank>mark v</A> ; <A
title=pct-l@backcountry.net href="mailto:pct-l@backcountry.net"
target=_blank>pct-l@backcountry.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 01, 2008
2:35 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [pct-l] Snow fears
and your choices</DIV>
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<DIV>Perfect advice on the North Cascades snow. As you and your
friends are heading NoBo just remember what happened last year in the
Mts. End of Sept. dozens of hikers were cut off at Snoqualmie and
Steven's Pass. Those who were in the Mts. north of Steven's finally
made it thru but had a real hard time. When the trail becomes
invisible under feet of snow......you are really on your own. Lighten
up on your partying. Is it worth hiking 2400 miles and not finish
because you had taken too many zero days and partied too much. Get
your @ss in gear and party when you are done.</DIV>
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<DIV>PCT MOM</DIV>
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other parameter or<BR>time limit is the early snows that can stop
you in your tracks just short of<BR>your Canadian goal/dream you've
been working 5 months for. When that is<BR>fluctuates, but the risk
increases after Sept. 15th to Oct. 1st.. You can<BR>start anytime;
you may have to deal with flash floods in SOCAL or some new,<BR>soft
snow from a late storm down there, but once the snow flies up
north,<BR>you're done. Research the trail journals. If you choose to
avoid snow by<BR>starting late, you'll have high mileage days to
stay on optimal trail and<BR>get in before the first snows. Enough
said, on to safety
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