[at-l] Cold. Gonna get colder.

Jim and_or Ginny Owen spiriteagle99 at hotmail.com
Sun Jan 10 00:19:47 CST 2010

In other words, he's not a climatologist, he's an oil man.


That's one of the dumbest copouts ever used in these arguments.  


Rajendra Pachauri is not a climatologist, he's a railroad engineer.  


Jim Hansen is not a climatologist, he's an astropysicist. 


Al Gore is not a climatologist, he's a failed divinity student. 


VERY few "climatologists"  are actually climatologists.  Most of them 

are computer nerds.  If you want a real climatologist, try Roger Pielke, Sr. 


You're not a climatologist, you're a retired state government worker. 


But you're willing to slime the author of something you don't like rather 

than counter the arguments he presents.  Even though his credentials 

(geologist/IPCC expert reviewer) say he knows whereof he speaks.  In fact, 

as a geologist, he necessarily knows more about the geologic processes, 

the history and the evidence concerning climate change than many of 

those who call themselves climatologists.  IOW, he's far better qualified 

to judge what it is and what it isn't than many of those who call themselves 

climatologists, but whose only real qualification comes from a "climate model" 

(computer program). 


I'm not a climatologist, I'm an engineer with a 40+ year background in 

atmospheric science courtesy of NASA and the atmospheric scientists 

that I worked with.  And a 10 year self-taught education in climatology 

because of the obvious lies promulgated by the IPCC/AGW community. 

I've also spent the last 5 years getting an educaton in archeology - and 

finding/confirming massive amounts of evidence that the IPCC/AGW community 

is either ignorant or just plain lying - your choice.  


Everything in that paper IS supported by the available science.  If it wasn't 

I wouldn't have posted the link. 

So .....What part of that paper do you believe is wrong? And why?  

Where's YOUR science?  If you can't counter the science, then 

you're just wasting bandwidth. 


Walk softly - and don't argue about things you don't know anything about, 





Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 22:48:30 -0500
Subject: Re: [at-l] Cold. Gonna get colder.
From: jim.bullard at gmail.com
To: spiriteagle99 at hotmail.com
CC: at-l at backcountry.net; nightwalker.at at gmail.com

Lee C. Gerhard

Research and Background
Gerhard is a retired geologist from the University of Kansas. He has government and industry experience in petroleum exploration, research and exploration program management, oil and gas regulation and reservoir geology. According to a search of 22,000 academic journals, Gerhard has published 13 research articles in peer-reviewed journals, mainly on the subject of resource geology in the oil and gas sector.

In other words, he's not a climatologist, he's an oil man.

Jim Bullard

On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Jim and_or Ginny Owen <spiriteagle99 at hotmail.com> wrote:

The Frozenwalker wrote: >It's called global climate change. Those who don't know the difference >between weather and climate should just try not to sound silly. I'm just sayin...A couple comments: 

1. Keep in mind that "climate change" goes both ways, hot - and cold. It's gone both ways for the last several billion years. 2. "Weather" is when it happens once (or twice).  The third time it's not weather - it's climate. This is not the first (or second) world-wide "cold snap" in the last few years.  3. Some interesting reading (notice that the author is an IPCC expert reviewer) -  http://icecap.us/index.php/go/new-and-cool/fact_based_climate_debate/ 4. That's all I have to say about that.  This is NOT the place for this kind of discussion. See me at the SoRuck or PA Ruck if you want to discuss the science.  Walk softly - and stay warm, Jim 


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