[Cdt-l] yellowstone

Wed Jan 12 21:59:07 CST 2011

Others will probably reply with more specifics, but in general, you 
should be able to do this over the phone just before you start... and at 
that point, you'll only be a day or two out of Yellowstone & should know 
your schedule fairly well.

I'm not sure if they "keep spots open", but most hikers have not had a 
problem getting a schedule together a few days in advance. You might not 
get all the sites you'd prefer, but you should be able to get something 
that works. The reality is that even when all the sites are "fully 
booked" on paper, it's rare to see them "fully occupied" on the ground. 
I'm not sure why that is.

One other thing - it can depend greatly on "who you get on the phone". 
Some rangers are a lot more knowledgeable of the CDT & hikers, and 
understanding of your situation. Others not so much. So, consider 
calling back at a different time or asking to speak to someone else in 
the office if you're not getting anywhere.

Good luck!

-Jonathan

On 1/12/2011 11:37 AM, Patricia Mazzolini wrote:
> I would like to get some feedback on how folks have handled the permit system at
> yellowstone. We are planning a CDT section hike from Togowotee pass through the
> Cenntenial mountain segment on the Montana Idaho border this year. I have gotten
> on the Yellowstone NP website and it seems you must get the permit or finalize
> the reservation within 48 hours of the start of your hike? That seems like it
> would make it very impractical in terms of hiking either north or south,
> hitching out to the west or south entrance then hitching back to get to the
> trail and enter the park within 48 hours (really more like impossible given a
> 13-14/mile/day average pace. Am I misreading this or do they allow you to obtain
> your permit greater than 48hours in advance or confirm your reservation? I have
> spoken with another CDT hiker who got alot of grief from a ranger about being
> off schedule and not at the right campsite at the right time. Also do you all
> think you need the advance reservation or do they keep enough walk in permits on
> hand to make the reservation uneeded? Lastly part of the route does not open
> until July 1, and the website states could be later depending on conditions-have
> any of you encountered problems with this opening occuring later? Any tips or
> feedback would be appreciated
> -Plastic
>
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> From: Jim and_or Ginny Owen<spiriteagle99 at hotmail.com>
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> As I recall, we ran into one on the PCT and it was non-aggressive.  Only saw a
> few (VERY few)
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> snakes on the CDT.
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> OTOH, both my sons trained in the California desert and both of them came back
> with stories
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> about the aggressiveness of the Mojave Green.
>
> Probably varies with the individual snake.  And the situation.  Just like
> humans. 
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> Enjoy them - but DON'T play with them. 
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> Jim
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> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 00:14:24 -0700
> From: dthibaul07 at gmail.com
> To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] Cdt-l Digest, Vol 40, Issue 9
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> I've never found the Mojave Rattlesnake to be any more aggressive than most
> other rattlesnakes I've encountered (which are several - such as Western Diamond
> Back (which they are easily mistake with), Eastern Diamond Back, Sidewinder,
> Pacific Rattlesnake, Black tailed rattlesnake, and the rock rattlesnake).
>
>
> I believe the aggressive stories about the Mojave (i.e. the green) generally
> spring from the fact that they have a more toxin venom.  I believe their
> aggressive reputation makes their story a little bit more exciting.
>
>
> While I have run into a couple of aggressive rattlers (one a Mojave or green and
> one a western) I have run into many more that were pretty docile.  I don't
> actually think the term aggressive is correct either.  I'd say more 'ticked off'
> than aggressive. 
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>
> I've talked to a couple of herpetologist here is Arizona about this and they
> seemed to agree that they have this reputation with the general public for
> aggressiveness that is probably unjust.
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>
> Anyway, I attempt to leave them alone and they attempt to do the same with me. 
> Although I probably enjoy seeing them more than they enjoy seeing me.
>
>
> You can tell the difference between the Mojave (or green) and the Western
> Diamond back by the diamond back pattern on the back of the snake.  On the
> Mojave the pattern fades as it progresses to the tail.  Also the Mojave (or
> green) is not always green - it is brown a lot of the time.
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> Day-Late
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> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 00:14:38 -0500
> Subject: [Cdt-l] Fwd: Cdt-l Digest, Vol 40, Issue 4
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> we have a green rattlesnake here that is aggressive - they have been known to
> move towards people
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